Viking11
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When I buy an apple do I also own the seeds?
Yes.
Can I use those seeds to grow an apple tree?
Yes.
Can I sell the apples that I grew on the tree that was grown from the seeds that I took from the apple?
Yes.
Why is it different for other things?
Possibly, though legally speaking that could be up for debate.
See above.
See above.
It isn't, necessarily. It depends on how the company (or as in your example, the grower) is able to trademark/patent/copyright it.
Intellectual Property is bad for business, and bad for consumers.
Intellectual Property Is Bad for Business
Who here thinks the idea of one click purchases are property? I don't, but Amazon and the government does.
If you had ever created something unique that you could also financially benefit from, you would think differently. Unless you're a communist, which frankly I would not have seen coming.
I would not. What right do I have to limit the ability of property owners to use their property in a peaceful manner?
I am in favor of intellectual property protections but there needs to be reasonable time limits on them. And those time limits can vary based on the nature of the product. For example, I am ok with an author keeping the copyright to his work for his whole life. But a pharmaceutical company shouldn't be able to hold on to a patent for a life saving drug anywhere near that long.
The only thing I see as reasonable is to have an agreement with the buyer that they won't copy the product. There is no valid reason that the rights of people that never bought the product should be limited. Agreement on products are made between buyer and seller, not seller and the rest of the world.
Uh, no. That's not how intellectual property rights work, and thank god too. What a ridiculous loophole that would offer: "Hey, Joe, go buy that painting for me. That way, when you give it to me, I can make prints of it and sell them." Ridiculous.
I was speaking towards a private contract, not law.
If . . . you would think differently.
Garth Brooks believes the second-hand music industry should be outlawed. I'm paraphrasing, but he feels that if you no longer want a CD you should be forbidden from selling it to someone else. And if that person wants it, they should be required to buy a new one. At full price and full royalty to him, of course.
That's going too far (and thankfully we're not there... yet). The way it is now is fine. I own the CD and can sell said CD, but I cannot sell copies or use it to make money without permission.
Intellectual property protection is good, but it does need reform.
Intellectual Property is bad for business, and bad for consumers.
Intellectual Property Is Bad for Business
Oh yeah, there are plenty of examples. I know a guy who used to work for a large aerospace firm. He created three things that were patented. All he got was a plaque saying he was the guy. No royalties, no bonus, nothing.I generally agree with this, though large companies have screwed its creators in the most horrendous of fashions. That lifetime copyright has ended up robbing the actual content creators of the right to profit from their works for their whole lives. It happens so often it's ridiculous.
For books, articles, graphic design, music, shows/movies the copyrights imo should last until the original author dies. After that, the copyright should end. UNLESS the spouse is still alive, then it can be extended until they die and no more. Their kids should not get the copyright.
Any technological invention should only have a copyright that lasts no more than 30 years.
Pharmaceutical discoveries should last no longer than 20 years.
Copyright laws are good in that it allows a person to contribute and yet make money to perhaps achieve more inventions. But it can be carried too far and be a detriment to innovation and advancement.
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