Coal power still accounts for 42% of the electricity in the US.
If you live out in the Western states you're far less likely to ever see a coal plant.
Cigarette smoking kills thousands every year.....It should be banned everywhere.
If smoking were legally allowed, they would be seriously naive and mistaken to expect a smoke-free environment. Case dismissed.They came in expecting food not cancer causing smoke. If the place was called "The Cancer Castle" maybe you'd have a point.
That's mighty liberal of you to want to protect people from themselves.Cigarette smoking kills thousands every year.....It should be banned everywhere.
Meh, I don't think I'm buying that. I've never heard that there was a huge problem with smoker starting fires in restaurants. I'm pretty sure it's because of employees contracting some kind of lung disease from second-hand smoke exposure.
http://publichealthlawcenter.org/sites/default/files/resources/tclc-syn-disabilities-2004.pdf
You don't have to buy it. There are thousands of fires started yearly thanks to irresponsible smokers. :shrug:
Cigarette smoking kills thousands every year.....It should be banned everywhere.
Very liberal thinking there Navy.
Yes, but show me the statistics of smokers starting fires in restaurants.
Approximately 7,500–15,000 hospitalizations annually in the United States
An estimated 150,000–300,000 new cases of bronchitis and pneumonia annually
An estimated 43.8 million people, or 19.0% of all adults (aged 18 years or older), in the United States smoke cigarettes.1 Cigarette smoking is more common among men (21.6%) than women (16.5%).1
Smokers are being reminded today that careless disposal of cigarettes is the single biggest killer in house fires. Habits such as smoking whilst drinking alcohol in the home or lighting up in bed are responsible for one in three (36 per cent) of all accidental house fires resulting in deaths.
Why does it matter? The possibility of an accidental fire which isn't covered by insurance is enough of an incentive to disallow it at a bar. :shrug:
It is, but I don't think that's the main reason. Bars and restaurants allowed smoking for years and years before all the information about second-hand smoking started coming out.
You're right. People also drove cars without seat belts for 60+ years. Try finding an insurance company that will cover you if you weren't wearing a seat belt during an accident today. The same logic applies to bars. A bar owner whose establishment catches on fire because of some smokers leaving a cigarette in the wrong place will be **** out of luck. Why take the risk to begin with? It's far easier to ban smoking at the bar.
I think you are absolutely wrong. Smoking is also banned at many other public places. I don't think it has to do with fires either.
If you can find me a better reason than the possibility of accidental fires that aren't covered by insurance, I'll concede.
I'm not sure if coal creates less pollution than gas but I agree, both are pollutants. You hear of smoke warnings (caused by gas) in Los Angeles but I live about 5 miles from a coal burning power plant and its clear skies and fresh air where I live.
The increased interest in electric cars is also creating a push for cleaner energy production. Telsa Motors is pretty public about eventually developing carports and garage roofs make out of solar cells for home car recharging.
Cigarette smoking kills thousands every year.....It should be banned everywhere.
You're right. People also drove cars without seat belts for 60+ years. Try finding an insurance company that will cover you if you weren't wearing a seat belt during an accident today. The same logic applies to bars. A bar owner whose establishment catches on fire because of some smokers leaving a cigarette in the wrong place will be **** out of luck. Why take the risk to begin with? It's far easier to ban smoking at the bar.
While this is a logical reason for an individual to ban smoking in their establishment, it is not proper argument for government pushing the issue.
I think the government has an interest in legislating reasonable safety measures that could shield a business from potential damage. There is no difference for me between this and having health standards for food.
Perhaps, but not enough so that it must ban it in bars everywhere. Health food standards particularly speak to that which the customer cannot see. We don't go into the back, we cannot necessarily inspect the food or watch it being prepared. The governments steps in, in a good number of cases reasonably so, runs the assessments and gathers the data, and then reports that data on the front of the establishment with a grade. That grade lets us know. But you'll never be surprised by an establishment that allows smoking. It's beyond fires at this point and was never about our safety so much as it was about our knowledge.
Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?
Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.
I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.
I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.
What think you?
You would have to have bar tenders and waiters who were smokers also, then it would be fair.
It may be stupid, disgusting and invasive to others Bodhisattva, but the question was related to private businesses not sporting events or on an airplane. Even though you find it disgusting, others may not. Yet because you don't like it, it should be banned from all public establishments? What has happened to tolerance? Why can't business owners make their own choices? If you don't want to be around it, why can't you find a place that doesn't allow it? And if smoking is so bad then why isn't there an all out ban to abolish it? Is it because those who complain about it the most are enjoying the taxes it generates?
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