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Shots fired at ICE facility in Texas / At least 3 people injured in shooting at Dallas ICE facility, acting director says

dobieg said:
It's ridiculous you have to even post this.

I don't know if some of our liberal friends are playing stupid just to goad us or they're really this stupid.
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You have to understand the liberal mentality. The core of liberal politics is to cause destruction but to NEVER take blame because, as a liberal, you are the savior of humanity. To that end, absolutely anything can be used to absolve you and absolutely everything is the other guy's fault. For example, if you drive 100mph through a school crossing and bounce half a dozen kids off your windshield that isn't your fault. It's the fault of the crossing guard that didn't stop you. Perfectly logical!
 


lol

That about sums it up.
 
every accusation.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Why would some anti-ICE guy shoot a van full of migrants? Makes no sense. Bullets engraved with anti-ice stuff? Too convenient.
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Seems like all of a sudden, before any information about the perp is released, the FBI announces it found engraved bullets at the scene. Two shootings in a row now.

Almost as if they want to get the story in fast and early before any facts come out.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
The attacks by Trump against the judiciary are constant, and, yes, extremely incendiary.
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how many judges have been fired at? how many assassinate? how many court houses (like ICE facility) ?

If Trumps rhetoric is being compared? then the left is doing a far far better job of radicalizing their followers to act, agreed ?
 
SCrider said:
every accusation.
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You have to understand the MAGA @Lutherf mentality. The core of MAGA politics is to cause destruction but to NEVER take blame because, as a MAGA, you are the savior of humanity. To that end, absolutely anything can be used to absolve you and absolutely everything is the other guy's fault. For example, if you drive 100mph through a school crossing and bounce half a dozen kids off your windshield that isn't your fault. It's the fault of the crossing guard that didn't stop you. Perfectly logical!
 

I suspect it was an act of violence to sow terror
 
LOL How many Ice agents did he shoot? He wanted to shoot illegal migrants not ICE agents. That is clear as day. He was "helping" ICE get rid of the "criminals from insane asylums".
 
W_Heisenberg said:
This administration has routinely violated the Constitution and broken federal statutes with respect to how it has conducted deportations. It's just a fact.
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I'm skeptical of the claim based on who's making that claim.

My conclusion drawn from the reportage of these cases which I've seen / read, the due process had been followed and was at its end with deportation orders, when claims of lack of due process are made. in response to those claims, there are a few more hearings and court decisions, but ends up with the same results. But that's just me.

W_Heisenberg said:
I agree with you that people favor the GOP on this issue.

I think you're kidding yourself when you try to claim that everyone is okay with the approach the Trump administration is taking.
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Some shy away from what actually needs to be done, often they don't want to know about those details.
Part of that approach you appear to object to has results in aprox. 1.2M self-deportations.
Those deportations are the best kind, as it gives a chance to legally immigrate without prejudice.
 
Deuce said:
If I were a crazy person who wanted to kill ICE agents, I would write things like "**** ICE" or "abolish ICE."

"Anti ice" is not how liberals talk about their own motivations.
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Has this energy to be frank.
 
dobieg said:
Oh.

All other evidence aside (like voting in a Democrat primary) since this idiot wrote 'anti-ICE' rather then '**** ICE' or 'abolish ICE' there's just no way he could be a liberal.

Wow, why didn't I think of that?
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Oh, evidence? That you've seen? Or were you told?
 
Deuce said:
If I were a crazy person who wanted to kill ICE agents, I would write things like "**** ICE" or "abolish ICE."

"Anti ice" is not how liberals talk about their own motivations.
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Yep, that sounded odd when I first read it. What's interesting is the rise in these types of acts where you have shooters writing on the casings because it has the feel of being more than just expressing a view. Kirk's assassin is a good indicator, and this one as well with the message he wrote.
 
Perjury!!!!!

Zero creativity.

All par for the course. No sense in straining yourself with thought if the only one you’re trying to impress is yourself.
 
trixare4kids said:
Yep, but it also is telling how they suddenly forget all the times both Obama and Biden were stopped by the courts for due process violations. Selective memories coming from some, and that is what we are recently reading on this thread.
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Not only that, but people here have crowed about how many people Obama and Biden "deported" with some using Democrat and TV anchor talking points alleging that it was in the millions. Did Obama and Biden give those people THEY deported trials in front of 12 man juries? This post is also for those liberals who made those claims in the past or believe them.
 
dobieg said:
It's ridiculous you have to even post this.

I don't know if some of our liberal friends are playing stupid just to goad us or they're really this stupid.
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Linuxcooldude said:
That and his searches on the internet were all focused on finding ICE agents.
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The ICE assassin was clearly hunting them down. Not unlike Charlie Kirk's assassin who scouted the net to find out where Kirk would be speaking in UT.
 

It's obvious some only have talking points and no legitimate rebuttals with reputable sourcing.
I hope I speak for many when I say I'm growing weary watching some toss mud thinking it will stick.
 
trixare4kids said:
It's obvious some only have talking points and no legitimate rebuttals with reputable sourcing.
I hope I speak for many when I say I'm growing weary watching some toss mud thinking it will stick.
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We are in a dangerous point in history right now and I am not one to be hyperbolic or conspiratorial. We have never had in all of history a period where we have literally hundreds of TV anchors, (alleged) comedians, talk shows and vitriolic and hateful people in the Senate and Congress handed microphones blaring away 24/7 at their tribal members with evil speech intended to rile up their tribal members to go after their enemies. The enemies THEY made are Trump, Charlie Kirk, and any prominent Republican or YouTube influencer.

This is not done on a weekly or monthly basis in some town square like centuries ago or daily in a couple of newspapers like just 50 years ago. This televised hate speech from people like Ilhan Omar, Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, Goldman, Clinton, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC and numerous major TV anchors goes on 24/7 as proven by over a dozen TV anchors repeating over and over that "Vance is weird" as just one of hundreds of examples of TV anchors puppeting what the Democrat leadership tells them to.

The evil ones in leadership are the tribal chieftains of centuries long gone riling up their tribes for war by telling them the OTHER tribe is dangerous and wants to hurt and kill them, so they (tribal members like the posters here) better take them out first. This makes the crazies want to be the hero tribal member by boasting that HE did it. And isn't he one to be admired and lauded for doing what the chieftains wanted him to do.

edit: I put the blurb in about Vance to prove that this isn't about Trump. he is just a placeholder. W#henever the tribal leaders see a threat to their power and influence, they will find a way to demonize the threat. "Vance is weird" was their lame attempt top demonize a person they saw as a threat. They had nothing else, so they tried to convince people her was weird. Why? No one knows. All we know is the lame DNC came up with that because their guy was weird and they didn't have anything at all to demonize Vance with. They will demonize anyone. Trump is just the guy they must demonize at all costs.
 
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uptower said:
Seems like all of a sudden, before any information about the perp is released, the FBI announces it found engraved bullets at the scene. Two shootings in a row now.

Almost as if they want to get the story in fast and early before any facts come out.
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What's wrong with getting it out quickly? The killer used an antique 8mm bolt-action rifle and left behind 8mm ammo. One unused round in a stripper clip was marked ANTI-ICE. If he was Pro-ICE how come he decided to commit a terrorist act on an ICE facility? How come he searched for places ICE agents were at throughout the state prior to this shooting? He also shot at ICE buildings and through office windows on the premises hoping to cause harm.

From the acting US attorney for N. Texas, Nancy Larson said, the terrorist called the people who worked at ICE dirty people waiting to collect a paycheck. He hoped his actions would bring terror to ICE agents. He wrote he wanted to cause terror. He called ICE work human trafficking. He wrote he wanted to cause harm to ICE. They found this information from notes the anti-ICE terrorist left in his home. He used ICE tracking Apps the anti-ICE people put out on the Internet. If anything, they are morally complicit in this crime.
 
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