• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Shapiro bashes NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani over failure to condemn ‘blatantly antisemitic’ extremists

Trumpetman

Conditional Statements are not Direct Statements.
Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
May 23, 2024
Messages
5,531
Reaction score
1,785
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other

Pa. Gov. Josh Shapiro bashes NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani over failure to condemn ‘blatantly antisemitic’ extremists

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has ripped socialist Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani for failing to condemn the “blatantly antisemitic” rhetoric being spewed by his Israel-bash…
nypost.com


When you are cobbling together a coalition not unified behind policies, services and position but instead based on identity and intersectional victim status, it always fractures and falls apart.

It should be noted that Pennsylvania registration is going more Republican with the smallest gap between parties in the modern era right now.

A NYC Mayor like Mamdani is just the sort of push that would help shove it over to full red and Republican.

Shapiro knows this which is why he is speaking up. He will be up for reelection in 2026. Will Democrat fracturing end up pushing him out of office and leave the Democrats more extreme than ever?
 
Josh Shapiro is correct, and this is one more data point that he has good political instincts. I hope he runs for president in 2028.
 
According to folks like Shapiro, anything other than blind support for Israel’s mass murder campaign is “anti semitism”, so that’s throughly meaningless.

And it’s fascinating that in America opposing a Western backed borderline genocide is “extreme”.
 
Gatsby said:
Josh Shapiro is correct, and this is one more data point that he has good political instincts. I hope he runs for president in 2028.
Click to expand...
Talking about “moral clarity” while blindly supporting Bibi’s war crimes rather clearly says otherwise.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Talking about “moral clarity” while blindly supporting Bibi’s war crimes rather clearly says otherwise.
Click to expand...
You don't have to support Israel's actions to oppose people shrieking about globalizing the intifada.
 
Gatsby said:
You don't have to support Israel's actions to oppose people shrieking about globalizing the intifada.
Click to expand...
Except Shapiro has repeatedly, explicitly expressed his support for Israel’s actions. Comparing protesters to a terrorist group and actively trying to stamp out boycotts of Israeli products speaks volumes.

Shapiro’s proven he’s willing to support Israel regardless of what it does, which renders his opinion on what is or isn’t “anti semitic” pretty much meaningless.
 
Shapiro was talking about Mamdani’s refusal to condemn the phrase “globalize the intifada,” which is indeed blatantly anti-Semitic. Mamdani has more recently said he will discourage use of the phrase; the correct decision.

Shapiro has criticized Netanyahu and supports a two-state solution. For example:

“There are policies of the Netanyahu government that I don’t support. I’ve been very vocal about that. But there’s a difference between not supporting the policies of whoever’s in charge at a particular time, and the underlying notion of a Jewish state of Israel.”

Let’s also not forget that an anti-Israel extremist set fire to Shapiro’s home while his family including children were inside.
 
Well, so one democrat has spoken out. I bet that pained Shapiro to do it. Then he wants to be President. For the most part, democrats will not speak out against one another and some of the most visible dems are in total support of Mamdani. Mamdani's the guy I want to stay out front, it makes it so much easier on republicans to win.
 
I will say I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation happening in Gaza than Mamdani.
 
Shapiro criticized Mamdani. Mamdani will change things thanks to the criticism.

Because grown ups can learn from constructive criticism and have actual adult conversations and reach consensus.

I guess MAGAs expected Mamdani and Shapiro to what? Act like a petchulant child like Trump?
 
Gatsby said:
And?

If they want to globalize the intifada, they are making that comparison themselves.
Click to expand...
And Israel is, as already pointed out, carrying out borderline genocide.

Which Shapiro fervently keeps defending.
 
Tigerace117 said:
How is Mamdani speaking out about it “worse and hurting more people”?
Click to expand...
That’s the opposite of what I said.

I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation in Gaza because it is worse and hurting more people than Mamdani’s initial refusal to condemn anti-Semitic statements (which he’s since corrected).
 
No, what you said was “I will say I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation happening in Gaza than Mamdani.”

Which implied that Shapiro would be preferential to talk about the events ongoing in Gaza rather than Mamdani.
 
Tigerace117 said:
No, what you said was “I will say I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation happening in Gaza than Mamdani.”

Which implied that Shapiro would be preferential to talk about the events ongoing in Gaza rather than Mamdani.
Click to expand...
Yes, in other words: "I would rather have Shapiro speak out about the starvation in Gaza because it is worse and hurting more people than Mamdani’s initial refusal to condemn anti-Semitic statements (which he’s since corrected)."

I'm failing to see the basis for confusion here. You want me to say that Mamdani is worse than starvation in Gaza?
 
According to Shapiro, opposing the famine Israel is causing is “anti Semitic” in the first place. Hence his efforts to go after BDS.
 
Tigerace117 said:
According to Shapiro, opposing the famine Israel is causing is “anti Semitic” in the first place. Hence his efforts to go after BDS.
Click to expand...
That's not what he said, either.
 
Gatsby said:
Josh Shapiro is correct, and this is one more data point that he has good political instincts. I hope he runs for president in 2028.
Click to expand...
I don’t know yet about president but definitely for re-election as governor.
 
Cameron said:
Quote it.
Click to expand...
“Shapiro has supported cutting off state ties with entities that engage in boycotts of Israel, such as BDS, or of Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. In 2021, after Ben & Jerry's announced that it planned to end sales in Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem while seeking to continue sales in Israel through a different arrangement, Shapiro supported calls to apply Pennsylvania's anti-BDS law to Ben & Jerry's. He said that BDS was "rooted in antisemitism" and praised Pennsylvania's anti-BDS law, which was enacted five years earlier. The organizations J Street and T'ruah have opposed similar laws on the ground that they violate the First Amendment. In 2024, according to a spokesperson, Shapiro pledged to sign a bill to block state funding of colleges and universities that engage in a "boycott or divestment from Israel", a term the bill defines to include any activity "intended to financially penalize the State of Israel".

On December 3, 2023, a pro-Palestinian protest accused Jewish-owned Philadelphia restaurant Goldie of supporting the alleged genocide of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip by sending the restaurant's profits to a provider of protective gear and training for the Israel Defense Forces during the war. Shapiro visited the restaurant in a show of support and said, "The purposeful gathering of a mob outside of a restaurant simply because it is owned by a Jewish person, well, that's antisemitism, plain and simple."He also criticized University of Pennsylvania president Liz Magill for "failure of leadership" and pressured the university to compel her resignation after she sidestepped questions during the 2023 United States Congress hearing on antisemitism.On December 13, Shapiro gave more detailed remarks on the war, saying, "Israel not only has a right, they have a responsibility to rid the region of Hamas and the terror that Hamas can perpetrate."

Josh Shapiro - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

For example.
 
Ok, thank you. I don't agree with him on all of that. But the Ben and Jerry's stuff, at least, was in 2021. A few things have happened since then.... I'm guessing you can't find a quote of him saying that "opposing the famine Israel is causing is anti Semitic”?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…