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long incitefull post that I very much agree with and also find interesting.
no need for apoloigies, I thought the post was very good and inciteful. I also agree with probably 99% of what you said.
I find it interesting also, thats why i asked to see if i got answers and what they were.
I also find it interesting how quickly your point of view is aknowledged when just "talked about" among people. I have had this same talk with girls and guys and we all quickly agree BUT society hasnt caught up yet? weird
I also have talked to women about the word bitch and slut. While of course guys use those terms, most dont really care that much or use those terms to really JUDGE women.Its mostly just talk, but "sometimes" women themselves are VERY VERY quick to use those terms and keep them going much more so than men and based on nothing.
Cant even count how many times ive been at the bar with a group of girls and a complete stranger walks in and some girls are like "look at that slut that just walked in" hahahaha totally funny
and like you said "interesting"
Dont think it effected me at all except that its part of my life.How do you feel about what happened, Centrist77?
Not asking you for the socio-legal implications of it or anything, but how do you feel, emotionally?.
hmm "coerced"? well it was definitely her doing, as in her idea and the first time she started everything. We were wrestling, i got hard and she kissed me.Did you feel coerced in any way? Did you feel you were given the option of saying no?
again trick question, yes i felt like saying no would have been negative because she may never have done it again and i wanted her to, even though i wasnt sure what "it" wasDid you feel like saying no would've had any negative repercussions for you?
not in a direct way. I felt bad cause some times i wonder if SHE feels bad, maybe she thinks I think it was wrong. But that has been cleared up has we still talk and also had sex/ a relationship later on in life.Did it make you feel bad in any way, at any point in your life?
To me, it sounds like a pretty clear-cut case of minor-on-minor molestation.
This is not uncommon at all; I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of child sex offenders are, themselves, minors.
I've known many women who were molested around this age by slightly older brothers or cousins.
This has had a negative impact on their lives, even if the sexual activity was ostensibly "mutually consenting"; but I don't know how much of that is because they were related by blood, and because for years after, when they wanted it to stop, they did not feel they could refuse, or tell their parents about it.
How would you tell your parents something like that, especially if the first instance was "mutually consensual" experimentation?
What I'm saying is, they felt coerced/ blackmailed into continuing the sexual relationship, because they were afraid they'd be blamed, at least partially, if they told.
And they probably would've been.
Yeah, I totally agree, alot of people will say they don't agree with these gender roles we box ourselves in when we discuss them. But they will conform to them on many levels during their daily life and not think about it. And when you think about it, you can see how easy it is to follow these gender roles. I mean, we are put into this binary box of male or female before we are even born. Think about how exciting it is to find out the sex of a baby in the mothers womb, like it's the most important thing about you. And every action in preparing for you to enter the world is tailored to that answer of male or female. It doesn't stop there either, really take a step back and look at all the things that assumed about us because of our gender. Its even prevalent here on these boards, in your profile under gender if you're a guy, it puts the male symbol colored blue, and if you're a girl it puts the female symbol in pink. What makes blue a masculine color, and pink a feminine? Nothing it's this social construct of gender, and what is socially acceptable for each respective gender. Back in the 1900's it was the opposite, then the colors switched sides.
Also I totally agree about the girls calling each other slut, and bitch. It goes back to the purity thing, as it being the most important part about a girl. You lose that purity you someone lose your femininity. And it's the easiest way to cut down a girl verbally. Gender stereotypes are reinforced by all, and it can be hard to challenge those stereotypes when we live in such a binary world gender wise.
Well, I'm glad this was a positive experience for you.
I don't think I would've been ready to have sex at that age (but I was not really even beginning puberty at eleven; I was a late bloomer).
A couple of years later, I was definitely ready, and just looking for the right guy.
I lost my virginity at 14, and I got pregnant almost immediately, and was 15 when my oldest child was born.
In retrospect, it all seems really fast, although of course a kid-year is like a dog-year... it seems about as long as seven regular years. :lol:
I'm glad you didn't end up becoming a father at twelve.
Seems like a lot of single dads on this board.
Not too many single moms.
Maybe most single moms can't afford internet, or don't have the leisure time to post on forums.
Anyway, I'm glad your daughter is doing well. Young parenthood has its advantages and drawbacks.
I dont think those of who are above the legal age of sex consent should have sex with those who are not. Children may be sexually mature before the age of consent, but they are not emotionally and mentally mature. An adult should find another adult to have sex with, even if the child wants it.
I agree in theory but what makes it hard is the grey are at the age of consent, for example if its 16 and the people involved are 16 and 15, then what? but thats just on an opinion level.
If we get into the law, the law is TOTALLY messed up in this regard, for example a 17yr old girl and 17yr old boy sending pictures to eachother can get busted for child pornography and have to register has "sex offenders" give me a break! the law definitely needs lots of work in this area.
I agree in theory but what makes it hard is the grey are at the age of consent, for example if its 16 and the people involved are 16 and 15, then what? but thats just on an opinion level.
If we get into the law, the law is TOTALLY messed up in this regard, for example a 17yr old girl and 17yr old boy sending pictures to eachother can get busted for child pornography and have to register has "sex offenders" give me a break! the law definitely needs lots of work in this area.
I think, in these kinds of cases, they should be sent to classes on the law, to teach them what is an offence. But, I dont think official criminal charges should be made against them. I certainly dont think they should be registered as sex offenders. This is way too harsh, for kids that age.
Really? Wow, I don't think a minor doing something with another minor when they are close in age like that should be illegal. No way should they be sex offenders for something like that.
HUH? you must have misunderstood me or i misspoke some where. I dont think it whould be illegal, i was saying that some of these things ARE illegal now and they would be charged as sex offenders. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, no I didn't think that you thought it should be illegal. I was just shocked that the law was like that, and stating my opinion on the matter.
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