Service academies to accept conservative alternative to SAT and ACT

[ColdHardTruth]

Service academies to accept conservative alternative to SAT and ACT​

The nation’s service academies next month will announce they will accept scores from the Classic Learning Test, a standardized exam that emphasizes classical literature such as Greek and Roman classics and Christian thinkers beginning in the 2027 admissions cycle, according to internal communications obtained by POLITICO and a person familiar with the matter granted anonymity to discuss the policy change.

This is completely unacceptable. It's basically making a special exception for religious schools. Doing so is completely inappropriate.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/15/military-academies-clt-standardized-test-00564290

 

[OrphanSlug]

While I've questioned the value of the SAT and ACT, and those two tests are looking at very different things, I would agree that adding another test further makes a mess of this subject.

But I will also add that by the 2026-2027 academic year, more than 80% or near 2,200 institutions will go "test-optional" or not require a test submission at all for admissions.

 

[NuffSaid]

Service academies to accept conservative alternative to SAT and ACT​

The nation’s service academies next month will announce they will accept scores from the Classic Learning Test, a standardized exam that emphasizes classical literature such as Greek and Roman classics and Christian thinkers beginning in the 2027 admissions cycle, according to internal communications obtained by POLITICO and a person familiar with the matter granted anonymity to discuss the policy change.

This is completely unacceptable. It's basically making a special exception for religious schools. Doing so is completely inappropriate.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/15/military-academies-clt-standardized-test-00564290

Either take the SAT, ACT, or the TRUMP.

 

[Taylor]

Whether this makes sense or not depends mostly on how well the test is able to predict performance in the first year.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Whether this makes sense or not depends mostly on how well the test is able to predict performance in the first year

It's literally a work-around for religious schools that are producing graduates that cannot pass the SATs.

 

[Greenbeard]

Lowering standards to increase conservative representation.

 

[Slartibartfast]

While we are lower our educational standards, China is producing more and more scientists and engineers.

 

[coyote505]

It's literally a work-around for religious schools that are producing graduates that cannot pass the SATs.

It 's been 60 years since I took the SAT, but I don't remember any questions in which theology would have been either a help or a hindrance.

 

[Taylor]

It's literally a work-around for religious schools that are producing graduates that cannot pass the SATs.

Again, the whole goal of a test like the SAT or anything else is to predict how well a student will do in college. Whether or not scores on the SAT correlate with scores on the ACT or any other test really doesn't matter.

 

[Ikari]

Service academies to accept conservative alternative to SAT and ACT​

The nation’s service academies next month will announce they will accept scores from the Classic Learning Test, a standardized exam that emphasizes classical literature such as Greek and Roman classics and Christian thinkers beginning in the 2027 admissions cycle, according to internal communications obtained by POLITICO and a person familiar with the matter granted anonymity to discuss the policy change.

This is completely unacceptable. It's basically making a special exception for religious schools. Doing so is completely inappropriate.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/15/military-academies-clt-standardized-test-00564290

DEI for MAGA huh?

 

[reflechissez]

DEI for MAGA huh?

Don't leave out affirmative action.

 

[Greenbeard]

DEI for MAGA huh?

That's where they're ending up, yes.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Again, the whole goal of a test like the SAT or anything else is to predict how well a student will do in college. Whether or not scores on the SAT correlate with scores on the ACT or any other test really doesn't matter.

I disagree.

Religious schools are producing students that cannot pass the SAT. That is an issue. That is what happens when religion interferes in education.

No. No special exceptions need to be made for religious schools.

 

[Ikari]

That's where they're ending up, yes.

Ahh, MAGA commies at it again.

 

[Taylor]

I disagree.

Religious schools are producing students that cannot pass the SAT. That is an issue.

I know that's your assumption, but the evidence suggests the opposite. Kids from private religious schools tend to score 100 points higher on average than kids from public schools.

That is what happens when religion interferes in education.

No. No special exceptions need to be made for religious schools.

People go to such schools because the public education system is failing in many places. It's pretty clear that your average private Christian school has far better outcomes than your average public school. Better test scores, better graduation rates, and better college attendance.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

I know that's your assumption, but the evidence suggests the opposite. Kids from private religious schools tend to score 100 points higher on average than kids from public schools.

This is obviously incorrect or there would be no need to make an exception to the SAT standards.

People go to such schools because the public education system is failing in many places. It's pretty clear that your average private Christian school has far better outcomes than your average public school. Better test scores, better graduation rates, and better college attendance.

People go to those schools because public schools do not allow religion. Conservatives hate that their religion is not taught in public schools.

No, it's not obvious that Christian schools are better. That is nonsense.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Whether this makes sense or not depends mostly on how well the test is able to predict performance in the first year.

Its what you guys accuse DEI of being. Lowering standards for a particular group.

 

[Taylor]

This is obviously incorrect or there would be no need to make an exception to the SAT standards.

The SAT is not a required test at most schools. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

People go to those schools because public schools do not allow religion. Conservatives hate that their religion is not taught in public schools.

No, it's not obvious that Christian schools are better. That is nonsense.

There are whole bodies of research on this. You are spouting nonsense.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

The SAT is not a required test at most schools. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Now you're blowing smoke.

The conservatives do not need their own special testing accommodation. It's nothing but DEI for MAGA morons.

There are whole bodies of research on this. You are spouting nonsense.

You are attempting to vilify public schools.

 

[HenryChinaski]

It's literally a work-around for religious schools that are producing graduates that cannot pass the SATs.

Bingo.

 

[Taylor]

Now you're blowing smoke.

The guy that proclaims to be worried about education has no desire to educate himself.

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Here’s a breakdown of the latest statistics from our database of 588 schools’ testing requirements for 2025, along with insights into trends and long-term commitments.

• 79.7% of colleges in our database are test-optional
• 5.8% of schools in our database require the SAT or ACT
• 63.1% are permanently test-optional
• Only 6.3% of non-permanently test-optional schools have committed to be test-optional beyond 2025
• 5.8% are test-flexible schools
• 7.6% are test-blind schools

 

[ColdHardTruth]

The guy that proclaims to be worried about education has no desire to educate himself.

Complete List of Test-Optional Colleges [Updated for 2025] from Spark Admissions

Get college admissions counseling information such as, Complete List of Test-Optional Colleges [Updated for 2025], from Spark Admissions.

www.sparkadmissions.com

Here’s a breakdown of the latest statistics from our database of 588 schools’ testing requirements for 2025, along with insights into trends and long-term commitments.

• 79.7% of colleges in our database are test-optional
• 5.8% of schools in our database require the SAT or ACT
• 63.1% are permanently test-optional
• Only 6.3% of non-permanently test-optional schools have committed to be test-optional beyond 2025
• 5.8% are test-flexible schools
• 7.6% are test-blind schools

Now you're just blowing smoke.

The DEI for MAGA morons was exposed and you're trying to redirect the conversation.

Just stop.

MAGA morons do not deserve or need a special admissions exception.

 

[Taylor]

But I will also add that by the 2026-2027 academic year, more than 80% or near 2,200 institutions will go "test-optional" or not require a test submission at all for admissions.

Yes. Most people in this thread, including the OP, have a very outdated understanding of how the process works these days.

 

[Taylor]

Now you're just blowing smoke.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

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I'm not a boomer.

You fail again.

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