How does this bill give more opportunity to sue, if pay practices are fair? It's a genuine question. If anything, wouldn't public knowledge give plaintiffs LESS reason to sue, assuming pay practices are equal?anything that gives more ability for plaintiffs to sue hurts employers. bookkeeping requirements are very expensive
How does this bill give more opportunity to sue, if pay practices are fair? It's a genuine question. I'm not seeing your logic. And as far as bookkeeping requirements, what additional bookkeeping would be necessary? Don't businesses already keep books?
I agree. But my understanding of this bill is that it's not giving more people the ability to sue, but rather making public knowledge about pay practices. It also claims to prevent an employer from dismissing an employee for discussing wage.if there is discrimination, there is already laws to sue under.
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BS! Title VII is about discrimination, not pay.
Sorry, but you're dead wrong. Title VII EXPLICITLY addresses compensation. This whole issue is about people selectively applying statistics to try to create an issue where none exists. Corporations simply don't give a rat's ass about whether you're male or female, they care about how much money you make them. Make them a lot and they will pay you well (as a general rule).Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, it shall not be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to apply different standards of compensation, or different terms, conditions, or privileges of employment pursuant to a bona fide seniority or merit system, or a system which measures earnings by quantity or quality of production or to employees who work in different locations, provided that such differences are not the result of an intention to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, nor shall it be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results is not designed, intended or used to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. It shall not be an unlawful employment practice under this subchapter for any employer to differentiate upon the basis of sex in determining the amount of the wages or compensation paid or to be paid to employees of such employer if such differentiation is authorized by the provisions of section 206(d) of Title 29 [section 6(d) of the Labor Standards Act of 1938, as amended].
I agree. But my understanding of this bill is that it's not giving more people the ability to sue, but rather making public knowledge about pay practices. It also claims to prevent an employer from dismissing an employee for discussing wage.
So, again, how is this a problem for employers, if they are not engaging in discriminatory pay practices? I'm not trying to be adversarial here, I'm just not seeing your logic. It seems you're arguing against something this bill doesn't try to do.
Yes because pay equality is bad right!? :roll:
Just ridiculous. Unequal pay for equal work is one of the biggest problems facing this country.
its not doing that.Imposing on business to make them agree to pay people more than they desire to do so is bad.
Honestly all salaries should be public information for all individuals. If anything it would lead to a truly fair and competitive labor market.
Sorry, but you're dead wrong. Title VII EXPLICITLY addresses compensation. This whole issue is about people selectively applying statistics to try to create an issue where none exists. Corporations simply don't give a rat's ass about whether you're male or female, they care about how much money you make them. Make them a lot and they will pay you well (as a general rule).
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The dems playing to the lawyer money lobby again and throwing an useless bone to women voters.
its not doing that.
"and require employers to show that wage differentials between men and women in the same jobs are for a reason other than sex."
It is none of anyones business how much I earn.
It is none of anyones business how much I earn.
I don't care how much you earn honestly. I do care about averages for job titles so that I can use that information to negotiate my wages.
I don't care how much you earn honestly. I do care about averages for job titles so that I can use that information to negotiate my wages.
Oh right sorry, it is making sure everyone follows the morals of the government. My bad.
It is when that's already covered by existing legislation.
Equality is a bad thing? :shock:
Well, you aren't owed that information. You don't have a right to force people into labor to compile whatever information you desire at the current time. We have an amendment against that kind of government action and everything.
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