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Most people, and studies, go by more than ten rounds which was the only legal definition we have ever had.
Because the federal government doesn't accept your claim that the general public has the same authority as does the police.
Most people, and studies, go by more than ten rounds which was the only legal definition we have ever had.
Most people, and studies, go by more than ten rounds which was the only legal definition we have ever had.
We NEVER had a legal definition, IMHO. The SCOTUS permits, so far, both the states and the federal gov't to "limit" the right of the people to keep and bear arms, in various, thus non-standard ways. What good is a standard if it not the standard? Even more rediculous is making new "standards" that do not apply to anything made before that time.
you will never get catawba to proffer a rational argument why 10 rounds is the magic number
clearly anything civilian police use is an objective standard
ten rounds is something a bunch of assholes in politics pulled out of their asses. There were no studies, no data no nothing supporting that line
Actually catawba is one of the more reasonable gun control advocates and will discuss things, propose solutions and even supply facts to back up his positions - unlike our horse food sales place extremist.
He has not argued the 10 rounds is the correct limit, but simply that a limit may be imposed.
Oh no...Im pretty sure since you are married to the numbers the problem is Obama...the incidents of mass shootings HAVE jumped dramatically under his presidency.Not as many as there are today, which helped make 2012 the deadliest year in mass shootings. As the Baltimore Police Chief said, we need to “address the rising epidemic of gun violence in this nation."
Police chief sees ‘epidemic’ of gun violence
Oh no...Im pretty sure since you are married to the numbers the problem is Obama...the incidents of mass shootings HAVE jumped dramatically under his presidency.
Seriously...there has never been a shortage of 30 round magazines OR 100 round magazines and if you are foolish enough to believe that is an issue you are simply too foolish to discuss the issue. And please DO make up your mind on what it is you want to ban. Is it assault rifles? High cap magazines? Just waht exactly is the 'culprit' since we all know you wont blame the people that are actually COMMITTING the acts.
I get that. His sliding goal line is based on convenience and the argument dujoir.catawba is on record wanting a complete ban on private gun ownership
I get that. His sliding goal line is based on convenience and the argument dujoir.
It's now seven in NY. Is that now the new definition? BTW, did you ever bother to read the entire polling data I posted to you last evening?
We NEVER had a legal definition, IMHO. The SCOTUS permits, so far, both the states and the federal gov't to "limit" the right of the people to keep and bear arms, in various, thus non-standard ways. What good is a standard if it not the standard? Even more rediculous is making new "standards" that do not apply to anything made before that time.
We had a law for ten years that defined high capacity magazines as those that exceeded 10 rounds. I guess you could make the same argument for the speed limit, why 55 mph for secondary highways?
We had a law for ten years that defined high capacity magazines as those that exceeded 10 rounds. I guess you could make the same argument for the speed limit, why 55 mph for secondary highways? Certainly most cars are capable of going much faster.
Oh no...Im pretty sure since you are married to the numbers the problem is Obama...the incidents of mass shootings HAVE jumped dramatically under his presidency.
Seriously...there has never been a shortage of 30 round magazines OR 100 round magazines and if you are foolish enough to believe that is an issue you are simply too foolish to discuss the issue. And please DO make up your mind on what it is you want to ban. Is it assault rifles? High cap magazines? Just waht exactly is the 'culprit' since we all know you wont blame the people that are actually COMMITTING the acts.
The numbers show the problem has grown worse since the ban. If it were up to me, both assault weapons and high capacity magazines would be banned. However, I am a realist, and realize that may not happen until we get more progressives in the House. For now, it appears that getting the background checks expanded to all gun sales is all that is politically likely. I am very happy about this as I think it will have the biggest effect on reducing the access by criminals and crazies to cheap guns in this country.
The numbers show the problems have gotten worse since Obama became president. Fun with numbers is fun.The numbers show the problem has grown worse since the ban. If it were up to me, both assault weapons and high capacity magazines would be banned. However, I am a realist, and realize that may not happen until we get more progressives in the House. For now, it appears that getting the background checks expanded to all gun sales is all that is politically likely. I am very happy about this as I think it will have the biggest effect on reducing the access by criminals and crazies to cheap guns in this country.
We had a brief national magazine limit (only on new sales) and a brief national speed limit (on ALL highways). The "same" argument does not apply, since one is a mere state issued privilege and the other a Constitutional right of the people. What the SCOTUS must do is to define, either what is "reasonable restriction" or what is "infringment", otherwise we will continue to get variations on the 2A "right" based on the whims of the legislature at both the federal and state levels.
The numbers show the problem has grown worse since the ban. If it were up to me, both assault weapons and high capacity magazines would be banned. However, I am a realist, and realize that may not happen until we get more progressives in the House. For now, it appears that getting the background checks expanded to all gun sales is all that is politically likely. I am very happy about this as I think it will have the biggest effect on reducing the access by criminals and crazies to cheap guns in this country.
what was the rational basis for a ten round limit?
Yes, well until that happens the last legal definition of high capacity was the 10 round limit. SCOTUS never ruled the 10 round limit to be unconstitutional.
What was the rational basis for the 55 mph speed limit?
Yes, well until that happens the last legal definition of high capacity was the 10 round limit. SCOTUS never ruled the 10 round limit to be unconstitutional.
By definition, aren't all weapons used for assaults? Define an assault weapon as you understand it...
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