Senate Democrat stage a circular firing squad

[bythoughts]

How shameful - a party where major politicians are allowed to argue with each other! Can you imagine if Republicans were like that - each of them running after some personal notion of "what is right" rather than just doing whatever Trump tells them or else?

 

[BirdinHand]

I’m laughing at the characterization of Booker as progressive

 

[Along Came Jones]

Okay. Republicans policies benefit the wealthy at the expense of the poor, and when they do throw some scraps to the poor, it is usually at the expense of social programs that provided far greater value that Republicans cut. You can feel free to provide counterexamples. I was a Republican for twenty years and have removed the wool from my eyes.



Even if they did not intend it to be so, I care about the results. The intentions of politicians, however malicious or beneficent are irrelevant to me.



I make no attempt to parse this, because it is irrelevant to me. You seem to care about the process of legislation without any care about what the legislation actually entails. So long as people get along, or something. I care about the actual result.

This is how I see our exchange so far.

• You think I’m here to defend the Republican Party.
• The legislative intentions of politicians are irrelevant to you. The result produced by the legislation is all that matters.
• Republican policies serve the interests of the wealthy at the expense of the poor.
• Recognizing the factions within the Democratic (or Republican) Party does not interest you.

Here is the question with which you initiated our exchange: Why should we desire bipartisanship as a principle, Along Came Jones? You then followed my answer with a challenge question: Without rushing to look them up on Google, can you name which bills in the last few years were bipartisan AND supported the widest range of public interests?

After what amounted to little more than a nap, I can name three bills without relying on the quite rational and practical use of Google or my standby resource, congress.gov. They would be the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, the First Step Act, and the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (Covid Relief).

I do admit, I had to google to get the proper titles for the bills, but the recollection came right out of my little noggin. And in the future, from the moment I finish writing this sentence, I'll use whatever resource is available to document and verify what I might write.

So, as a principle, why do you trivialize bipartisan legislation as everybody getting along to feed scraps to the poor? Have you visited congress.gov to survey what Congress attempts to do? Those attempts do not excuse the gridlock, but it ought to dampen your distain for legislating via bipartisanship.

 

[bomberfox]

Why should we desire bipartisanship as a principle, Along Came Jones? Why do you?

On principle no, but its necessary to get anything done when you dont hold all the cards

 

[Careyap87]

I do not support execution no matter what crime it is as a Catholic it is MURDER falls under "Thou Shall Not Kill".