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I never vilified her for using a gun. I vilified her for living in a black market warehouse. You haven't dealt enough with restaurant and liquor store owners to know that a lot of times the stuff that comes in wholesale, goes right back out and is sold at black market prices: again, why do you think those guys were there?
I have been telling you this stuff all along and you chosen obtuseness over dialogue.
You think those guys manufactured their own guns?actually think that through
gun control laws means those who follow the laws won't have guns
criminals breaking into homes aren't following laws
that is why gun control merely disarms honest people
I watched and read the entire story. ... This woman should be put to death for murder. She killed one of them, or more accurately, her gun killed one man.
This is further proof that the confiscation of ALL firearms is needed immediately. She would not have had to fear them and murder them, if neither they nor she had access to a damn gun!
Further proof that any trump supporter is absolutely insane!
Clearly fire arm registration prevents absolutely nothing!
To be clear...you are suggesting that woman in her home should have just had the guts to go hand to hand with three home invaders?
:doh
so if you are 65 year old man in poor health, all you need is guts to fight off say a 28 year old man.
this is the same kind of thinking the japanese used during WWII, BUSHIDO, thinking because they were brave soldiers, they would over come bullets and could win, and its stupid
People never NEED guns.
If that is your expectation of a wild animal encounter,
more power to you, and good luck, you are going to need it!
Yeah. I'd rather they just hide.
If the attacker was intent on scouring the house trying to murder them then I'd ask them what the hell they'd done to make such an enemy.
That's your choice. Others however are brave about it.
But do the facts support the claim that one NEVER needs a gun to defeat an armed attacker?
I'll certainly concede the point that it is possible, at times and under certain circumstances to defeat an armed attacker without the aid of a gun.
Of course that's a true claim and there are factual examples of situations that bear it out.
What concerns me are the situations where it would not be possible under any circumstances to defeat an armed attacker or group of attackers who are intent on or perfectly willing to commit murder.
Unless you're PERFECTLY comfortable in the idea that you, personally, could literally take ALL comers, under ALL circumstances, whether armed or unarmed, with ANY of the hundreds of types of implements that could be used to shoot, stab, bludgeon, choke, crush, or otherwise kill a person, you're a literal idiot to not arm yourself.
The way I see it, if two ~250 lb. ex con muscle-heads kicked in the door of my house at 0300 armed with hammers and crowbars there is nothing at all I could do to prevent them from killing me, my wife, and my two little boys if I were unarmed.
I'd certainly be willing to fight them to the death, and it is a near certainty that that's exactly the state I would be found in when police eventually got to my home.
But I'm the last line of defense for a 110 lb. woman, and two boys under the age of eight years old.
I'm not willing to take the chance that a couple of guys who would invade a person's home armed with deadly weapons would ALWAYS be willing to take the TV, the jewelry, and go on about their business.
And I'm not willing to take the chance that I would ALWAYS be physically capable of defeating them with my bare hands, a kitchen knife, or a blunt object.
And I live where I do (TX - I moved here from NJ) in part because I don't want it to even have to be a consideration that I try to reason with, wrestle with, otherwise dissuade, or flee from a home invader.
That's your choice. Others however are brave about it.
Your very first post in this thread, in response to the OP is that people don't need a gun to defend themselves. Unless you weren't responding to the OP with that post?
That's right, and I showed a video that proves it.
She's a gun owner. You're saying that she's into illegal acts based on what exactly? That she has a bunch of items in her home? You're making assumptions. You know nothing about her. I'd bet that if she had been unarmed and killed you'd be defending her and hollering about how this is an example of why people shouldn't have guns. ...Oh wait...you're already doing that last part.
It is very apparent YOU have never been attacked by multiple assailants.
I have. Still have the scar on my left thigh.
I was in pretty good shape and there were two of them.
They surprised me and it was all over in seconds.
You are NEVER the badass you THINK you are when you are walking back to your truck after a job, tired, and thinking of a cold one when you get home.
BOOM!
Reality steps in and changes your perspective forever.
You are talking from 100% THEORY with ZERO practical experience.
Your advice you give here will get someone killed or hurt pretty bad.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You are only talking from theory.
No, I'm speaking from the facts pointed out in the numerous videos I've posted and from the fact that I'm not afraid to walk my own streets without a gun. That's not theory.
a guy I knew was KILLED in Ft. Lauderdale who had your exact attitude.
He worked in a gun shop and did private security at night.
One night while at a video game parlor two Haitians came in to rob the place WITH GUNS.
He was behind the door sitting on a char when they came in. He was pretty good at martial arts, so rather than draw his own gun, he jumped them both as he was behind them when they came in.
They shot him dead in the scuffle.
Your THEORY is just as dead as he was.
Unless you KNOW what you are talking about, it is best to not give advice to others that will get them killed.
This is what you are doing with all this BS advice you are putting out here on this thread.
I did not know you HATED your fellow citizen that much, to the point you will had out advice to them that would, could, and WILL get them killed.
If anyone takes your advice on this issue, they will die.
Then why don't you get rid of all your guns? I'm sure you can find a buy back program.
Two are antiques, they'd bring some bucks and one is a pretty expensive 1911.
That's right, and I showed a video that proves it.
Camer☑n;1066370181 said:You think those guys manufactured their own guns?
She's probably not even a citizen.
And again, when did I say she was wrong for shooting at those guys?
Very well said, soot.
Since you are new to Texas, You might not know that down here we can also protect our PROPERTY with deadly force.
It is YOUR TV set, and they have no right to take it from you.
Let them go to NJ and steal one for someone up there.
Down here in Texas, you take your life in your hands if you attempt to steal ANYTHING from a Texas citizen.
I have to admit...I dont follow every comment of Ztrump, or Hillary for that matter. Can you point to a speech or comment where he has said law abiding citizens should have their guns confiscated in Chicago?Another multiple flash mob of a thread about gun control..
What do you guys think about Trump's stance on gun control in high crime areas like inner city Chicago? I repeat: in high crime areas like inner city Chicago. He thinks guns should be confiscated in high crime areas. He advocates stop and frisk.
I wholeheartedly agree.
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