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I'm not a fan of Breitbart, and generally am not fond of entrapment situations. That said, as I've said on all sorts of issues, the world isn't black and white. There is a different level of dislike with regards to directly misrepresenting yourself as a specific person and something eneric.
For example, in this case, if the person just put himself forth as a wealthy republican donor rather than attempting to impersonate a specific person I'd have less of an issue with his action. Still not "no" issue, and I wasn't completely without issue with Breitbart's guy either, but I think pretending to be a specific factual person is a bit worse than a more generalized deception as you're not just assuming a new identity but stealing someone elses essentially.
I think often you have to look at what is being uncovered as well, as again things don't function in a vacuum. For example, if what he did on the phone regarding donors was an actual legitimate breakage of the law (and not just some left wing blogger speculating it MIGHT be) then I have far more issues with him because he actually did something illegal. On the flip side, a lot of what he said is as likely to be bluff and bluster as legitiamte strategy and until he actually ATTEMPTS it its not something I would get upset about. This is in part why I'm not fond of these type of styled "stings" when its just to get information, because the fact the information is being gained in a fraudulent way causes the legitimacy, hoensty, and seriousness of things it finds out to be called into question thus making it more useful for propoganda than any kind of honest reporting.
But that's exactly what O'Keefe did, in that he made himself out to be someone he wasn't. As for Breitbart, I see what he did as just as bad because he dishonestly edited tape to make it appear that something existed where it really didn't......but I think pretending to be a specific factual person is a bit worse than a more generalized deception as you're not just assuming a new identity but stealing someone elses essentially.
But that's exactly what O'Keefe did, in that he made himself out to be someone he wasn't.
As for Breitbart, I see what he did as just as bad because he dishonestly edited tape to make it appear that something existed where it really didn't.
You know, I am kind of surprised here. I was expecting the hyperpartisan Liberals and Conservatives to assert that what their guys did wasn't as bad as what the other guys did. I really didn't expect it from you. In fact, you are about the last person I expected it from, so I am surprised. You and I don't see eye to eye on a few things, but I respect you as a poster who can be brutal but honest. I have to chalk this up to the fact that maybe you didn't express your point of view as well as you could have. The fact that you are not happy with what O'Keefe and Breitbart did tells me that. But, the way I see it, dishonesty is dishonesty, and there are way too many hyperpartisan assholes, on both the right and the left, who have the gall to call themselves reporters, when they are actually..... (let me coin a new word here) .... Scrivenetutes. :mrgreen:
This is going to cost Walker support in public opinion polls as well as a blow to his image of a nice guy looking out for taxpayers. The Halloween costume has been stripped off and is is beginning to be revealed for who he really is. And that is a good thing.
you can say the same thing over and over, but it doesn't make it true.
The Gallup Poll alread has the data which shows that Americans DO NOT want Walker style union busting laws to come to their state by over a 60% figure.
Poll: Americans favor union bargaining rights - USATODAY.com
The Gallup Poll alread has the data which shows that Americans DO NOT want Walker style union busting laws to come to their state by over a 60% figure.
Poll: Americans favor union bargaining rights - USATODAY.com
This is going to cost Walker support in public opinion polls as well as a blow to his image of a nice guy looking out for taxpayers. The Halloween costume has been stripped off and is is beginning to be revealed for who he really is. And that is a good thing.
Editor’s note: One of the accounts in this interview seems to use a transcript that does not match the actual audio. The account involves the rude description of MSNBC anchor Mika Brzezinski.
Wisconsin is not siding with the corrupt unions.
your side is losing the war locally. Do you live in Wisconsin? If you did, you would know this to be true.
Even though I'm sure that question was asked sarcastically, I'll answer it anyway. Walker's acceptance of a gift for "Crush[ing] these bastards" is iffy legally, but him asking Koch to fund anti-union ads in other states is definitely coordination.
And Rasmussen shows 48% support Walker's position while 38% support the Unions position. :shrug:
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports™
rasmussen?!?!?!? what a joke.
If that idiot told me there was dirt under the grass i would reach for a shovel just to verify.
Let's make this simple, shall we? Is punking journalism? No. It's a prank.
The Buffalo Beast might contain journalism but Koch Whore wasn't an example.
The Left doesn't have any real facts, so they have to send in, "troublemakers", to create, "facts". Incredible!
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