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School shooting this morning . . .


That's interesting. Tomorrow I will look into that. Not one you say?
 
I will say this, the gun is but a tool. An efficient tool. But just a tool. Our problems really are larger. It's not the tool, but the mindset.

I agree with you 100%. How do you suggest we address the mindset?
 
No, they don't matter. It's just talk. None would dare actually do anything significant. Just won't happen.

yeah like say ten round magazine limits passed in 1994 and bans on most semi auto rifles in California

you are either IGNORANT of what dems have done in many states or dishonestly claim that such laws don't exist and that assholes like those turds mentioned by CC don't plan even more nonsense.
 
I agree with you 100%. How do you suggest we address the mindset?

Letting victims have the power to kill or severely injure those with nefarious mindsets that they act upon
 
Pretty minor? Really? Short of some smaller framed semi autos and older weapons like 1911s, most modern semi auto hand guns come with a minimum capacity of 10 rounds.

Are you telling me suppliers won't adjust? Do you really expect me to believe that?

Yes, minor.
 
Are you telling me suppliers won't adjust? Do you really expect me to believe that?

Yes, minor.

I don't think you have the credibility to determine what are minor infringements of a right you don't have much, if any, use for.
 

nothing beats that slob Michael Moore trying to blame Columbine on Heston and Kmart
 
No, they don't matter. It's just talk. None would dare actually do anything significant. Just won't happen.

When leaders of our nation speak words like ban and confiscation. We better listen. Its more than just talk.
 
I agree, and as long as people like that are willing to kill or rob others, the rest of us need to be able to defend ourselves from them. Anti gunners want to make sure people like that will face disarmed victims.

Here is a thought for you. Let's take any epidemic. We focus our efforts on the cause not the symptoms. The acts are a symptom of a larger issue.
 
Looking at the situation strictly in terms of what would be effective, I question that tactic based on research (and I could be wrong here) stating that is does not function as a deterrent.

the purpose and motivation for leftwing gun control schemes is not to deter criminals

rather it is to allow Democrats and Liberals to pretend they are DOING SOMETHING about crime (without actually hurting criminals) and harass and annoy people who are perceived to be mostly conservative Christian white males (that is the perception of whom most gun owners are)
 
Are you telling me suppliers won't adjust? Do you really expect me to believe that?

Yes, minor.

Thanks to people like you, I purchased several and became quite efficient with them. They all hold more than 10 rounds.
 

Its not like that at all. It's more like anti emission laws, or not allowing heavily tinted windshields, or and number of restrictions we have in automobiles.
 
Here is a thought for you. Let's take any epidemic. We focus our efforts on the cause not the symptoms. The acts are a symptom of a larger issue.

great idea-that means not harassing law abiding gun owners and pretending the harassment will stop the disease or the symptoms
 
Are you telling me suppliers won't adjust? Do you really expect me to believe that?

Yes, minor.

Sure, just revamp the product line to bow to political pressure. Sounds oh so American. You said enough. You are the type that thinks we should be just allowed single shot rifles and one box of ammo per year. Thanks for showing your colors.
 

If you can not stay rational please don't respond to my posts. I am not interested in a partisan pissing contest.
 
Its not like that at all. It's more like anti emission laws, or not allowing heavily tinted windshields, or and number of restrictions we have in automobiles.

opinion noted and rejected as specious and dishonest. Those restrictions are all based on safety

none of the crap the Democrats have passed are aimed at criminals but rather people who don't violate substantive laws.

I can own a car that is faster than anything the cops have. so your analogy is moronic.
 
The official definition is "self defense" not war:roll:

I'll give you credit for actually getting my point. (even though this response defies that)
 
You stated the fact of his examples as "minor". You said it all right there. You may wish to walk it back, but dont bother we know where you stand.

The fact was related to American mythology. Sorry. But good try all the same.
 
Its not like that at all. It's more like anti emission laws, or not allowing heavily tinted windshields, or and number of restrictions we have in automobiles.

Nothing to do with rights as pertains to automobiles. And I have gutted more cats and blacked out more windows than I can remember.
 
If you can not stay rational please don't respond to my posts. I am not interested in a partisan pissing contest.

where did I attack your post as irrational. I used it to note that deterrence of criminals has nothing to do with what motivates those who are calling for more laws that only impede honest people. Kids aren't legally allowed to own guns-let alone take them to school and shoot people. what laws would have stopped that? banning his parents from owning a gun before he did it?
 

Neither. None if these laws amount to anything significant.
 
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