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Oh, the old. You cant shoot well argument. Man you are trotting all the excuses out tonight. Who are YOU to decide by what means I defend my home.
Your sanctimonious and patronizing comments only prove further that you are hostile to gun rights.
You don't understand gun use because if you did you would not claim that bans on more than 7 rounds in a gun are insignificant. that prevents anyone from NYS state being competitive in USPSA competitions or other similar events such as the GSSF or "Steel Challenge" style shoots
Relax. Don't care.
Backing away are we? Little too much heat? You wish to tell others what they can do with in our rights. You are picking the wrong battle.
Ifs are not a logical argument. Calm down. Rein in your emotions.
I do not see a significance. And you have failed to show any.Dont lie like claim that magazine bans are not significant. You tend to lose credibility when you make such claims.
tell us what laws would have stopped this shooting today?
Who are YOU to decide it's ok to endanger the lives of innocent children so you get to keep your toys?
No. We're on the web. There's no heat here. I just prefer more logic and less emotional rant.
Oh, your last question. I don't know of any, which us why I haven't proposed any.Dont lie like claim that magazine bans are not significant. You tend to lose credibility when you make such claims.
tell us what laws would have stopped this shooting today?
I do not see a significance. And you have failed to show any.
No. We're on the web. There's no heat here. I just prefer more logic and less emotional rant.
Really good points.
You are right it is deeply embedded and it's tentacles reach in many different directions. For one thing we glorify violence and tie being able to kick ass to manhood which in reality, has nothing to do with being a man. I think arming our boys with a healthier understanding of what being a man really means would be a great start. Not sure how we would do that. We can say it's the parents job, but if the parent didn't learn it themselves chances are they aren't going to be teaching it.
Oh, your last question. I don't know of any, which us why I haven't proposed any.
Its ok because Iam an American taxpayer. With full rights under the constitution. That is who I am. What are you?
that again is moronic. Police usually determine when and where they confront armed criminals. They have backup, vests and radio communications. The rest of us never choose when someone attacks us and where. we usually don't have backup.
so your moronic claim that I only need 7 is just more illustration you have no clue about this issue
why 7 why not 5 or 3? when NYS limited people to 10 rounds I made the same argument and people like you said the same thing about ten rounds
tell us what expertise you have in civilian self defense issues that allows you to determine what is a proper number of rounds GIVEN THE GOVERNMENT HAS DETERMINED IT IS 15 to 17
There was a thread on DP related to that tragedy:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-c...nd-gun-regulation-w-175-a.html#post1061758937
Part of todays story:
Eastwoods character commited at least two felonies in that movie. Pulling a .45 from in his truck on unarmed people and going outside with his Garand.I agree. It would hurt to have better role models as well. More Eastwood's Gran Torino, and less "Saw" or the like.
Frankly I dont give a **** about the Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, etc. I dont live in their country. I dont have their experiences, They dont have mine. Funny how that all works. Even when the Aussies were allowed fairly unfettered gun ownership they never had the same kind of problems we have with gangs and violence so to compare our experiences is in a word...stupid. Attempting to alter the rights (freedoms) of the vast majority of the owners of 300 million firearms because the very occasional bad actor is also...stupid. Ignoring the day to day violence and only celebrating the occasional school shooting in your 'cause' is not only stupid, its corrupt. Ignoring the reality for every 1 school shooting there are hundreds of beatings and stabbings that go ignored is equally stupid and corrupt.
Oh, the old. You cant shoot well argument. Man you are trotting all the excuses out tonight. Who are YOU to decide by what means I defend my home.
and Boo is not? Just because you are a tax paying citizen doesn't mean you get whatever you want, especially if what you want endangers others.
So far, most of society has no issue with my guns. Had they, you would have gotten more gun laws in April. Obama blew it.Again, not me personally. Society.
Guys, your emotional rants have been diverting, but my day starts at five am. I must leave for now.
They are human, but they are subjects. We are citizens. There is a difference. We have rights that they dont, and they hate that.Yeah, those Aussies, Canucks, and Kiwis ain't as human as you, 'cuz you're American! How dare anyone even think that they could be compared to a REAL human being like you! They can't, because Americans - and specifically, a red-blooded gun-loving American like you - are the ONLY real humans! Yeah!
No, only sometimes. They can walk in on something at any time. You view is simply inaccurate.
Pro gun rights people (i use you and your rants as the "generalization" here, since you claim to speak on behalf of all gun rights people here anyway, to no or little objection by them) repeat the stupid stuff they hear from the NRA, and usually have very little to no knowledge about the constitution, the idea behind it by the founding fathers, or the history of the amendments.Still waiting for your gun law ideas.
Pro gun rights people. We believe in personal responsibility, punishing the criminal, raising children to not be weak minded, we believe in the US Constitution, we hold all our rights dear and know when one falls they all will fall.
I noticed your paratroopers insignia in your avatar. You former US military? If so, you swore an oath to defend the constitution of the united states. The 2A is part of that constitution.
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