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Saudi princes among dozens detained in 'corruption' purge

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Saudi princes among dozens detained in 'corruption' purge


Crown Prince Salman is consolidating his hold on power and removing competition/opposition.

Judging from his public remarks lately (NYC terrorist/Clinton), Trump would love to possess/wield such power.
 
the Saudis are terrorists, like ISIS & they chop off heads, like ISIS; all of those detained will likely lose their heads

the Saudis support terrorism, period

comforting to know the Bush family (for decades) & the US Government (since the 1930s) are in bed with these terrorists ...........
 

Well the crown prince actually seems to want to change that and from what I have read wants to start some Westernization and secularization.
 
Carjosse said:
Well the crown prince actually seems to want to change that and from what I have read wants to start some Westernization and secularization.
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Easier said than done.

The Saudi royal family rules with the support of the Imam class which preaches extreme religious conservatism... He'll find it extremely difficult to push too much social change too fast with such an arrangement in place.

It's actually quite a dangerous proposition.

But it'll be interesting to see him try.
 

That's a bit harsh. Most of the Saudi princes and "ruling class" have been educated in the west, and are interested in moderating the incomparable parts of Islam that they feel are holding the country back from it's real potential. They understand that the oil pool cannot last forever and they may have to engage in real commerce someday.
 

often times the truth can be a bitter pill ...............
 
Re: Saudi princes among dozens detained in 'corruption' purge
※→ cuban smokes, et al,

Well, this is not exactly accurate.

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First, as far as the American Oil Leaders and the US Government goes --- it is a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. For many many years --- and even today, there are key influences in the Middle East/Persian Gulf Region in regards to the supply of energy.

Most Respectfully,
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the critical piece of information i noticed on the bbc was that they separately replaced military leaders concurrently, implying a coup under the auspices of reform. the anticorruption unit is under the aegis of a prince.

coup? junta?
 
Carjosse said:
Well the crown prince actually seems to want to change that and from what I have read wants to start some Westernization and secularization.
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Then again if he was that pro reform he wouldnt be trying to get Qatar to shut down Aljazzera.
 
flutterby618 said:
the critical piece of information i noticed on the bbc was that they separately replaced military leaders concurrently, implying a coup under the auspices of reform. the anticorruption unit is under the aegis of a prince.

coup? junta?
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Neither. As the Crown Prince, MBS is the designated heir, and second-in-command. As I understand it, among those replaced in military positions were people who had a possible dynastic claim on the throne, with some folks who weren't.

At current, I read this as an old king helping to clear out his designated heir's contenders before he himself goes, with the concurrent goal of removing obstacles to MBS' preferred reforms. We'll see if he's out over his ski tips or not.
 
Thinking further on this, it reminds me greatly of a Putin-style coup. One of Vova's favorite tactics in the consolidation of his power was "fighting corruption". Under this aegis, almost anyone could be arrested/framed by Putin's former bailiwick - the KGB. He also sent a message to the powerful oligarchs ... you can keep your corruption fortunes, but don't ever cross me. That was 17 years ago and he's still in power. Last year Putin formed a new national entity - the National Guard. 400,000 strong it is composed of OMON (riot police) and former Interior Ministry troops. It is lead by a General ... a longtime Putin loyalist and the former head of Putin's personal bodyguard detachment. In reality, the National Guard is Putin's personal Praetorian Guard, and obeys orders from no one except Vladimir Putin.
 
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