Saudi Court Ups Punishment For Gang-Rape Victim

[Monk-Eye]

" Saudi Court Ups Punishment For Gang-Rape Victim"

The 19-year-old victim was sentenced last year to 90 lashes for meeting with an unrelated male, a former friend from whom she was retrieving photographs. The seven rapists, who abducted the pair and raped both, received sentences ranging from 10 months to five years in prison.

The victim's attorney, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, contested the rapists' sentence, contending there is a fatwa, or edict under Islamic law, that considers such crimes Hiraba (sinful violent crime) and the punishment should be death.

"After a year, the preliminary court changed the punishment and made it two to nine years for the defendants," al-Lahim said of the new decision handed down Wednesday. "However, we were shocked that they also changed the victim's sentence to be six months in prison and 200 lashes."

The judges more than doubled the punishment for the victim because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media," according to a source quoted by Arab News, an English-language Middle Eastern daily newspaper.

Judge Saad al-Muhanna from the Qatif General Court also barred al-Lahim from defending his client and revoked his law license, al-Lahim said. The attorney has been ordered to attend a disciplinary hearing at the Ministry of Justice next month.

Al-Lahim said he is appealing the decision to bar him from representing the victim and has a meeting with Justice Minister Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Ibrahim Al Al-Sheikh on Monday.

Al-Lahim said he wanted the Justice Ministry to take "a very clear standing" on the case, saying the decision is "judicial mutiny against reform that King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz started and against Saudi women who are being victimized because of such decisions."

Women are subject to numerous restrictions in Saudi Arabia, including a strict dress code, a prohibition against driving and the need for a man's permission to travel or have surgery. Women are also not allowed to testify in court unless it is about a private matter that was not observed by a man, and they are not allowed to vote.

The Saudi government recently has taken some steps toward bettering the situation of women in the kingdom, including the establishment earlier this year of special courts to handle domestic abuse cases, adoption of a new labor law that addresses working women's rights, and creation of a human rights commission.

CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.

:joke: :doh Arabism is the one true religion of peace. :doh :joke:

 

[Jerry]

" Saudi Court Ups Punishment For Gang-Rape Victim"


:joke: :doh Arabism is the one true religion of peace. :doh :joke:

And people say the war isn't justified :roll:

 

[Monk-Eye]

Failing Principle

"Failing Principle"

And people say the war isn't justified :roll:

As WWI was overshadowed by WWII, the free world soon forgot about the arabismic (arabysmal :lol caliphate.

Where was the US goal in iraq, as in the reconstruction of Turkey, to mandate secular government by martial law?

Iraq has a unique sectarian demographic, such that no particular sect of mushroom hats might surmount, although, the extent to which sharia law may be implemented (upon which the government is founded) should not be underestimated.

 

[Vader]

" Saudi Court Ups Punishment For Gang-Rape Victim"


:joke: :doh Arabism is the one true religion of peace. :doh :joke:

This is elegant proof that Islam needs to be separated from government at all costs.

It's also sufficient reason to sentence each member of the is-lame-*** court of corrupt arab scumbags to 1000 lashes.

:shock:

 

[Thelost1]

And people say the war isn't justified :roll:

We aren't fighting the Saudis.

 

[Jerry]

We aren't fighting the Saudis.

Radical Islamic law is only inforced in that one country? Oh, I didn't realize.

 

[Tashah]

We aren't fighting the Saudis.

But we are indeed engaged in a struggle against Wahabbism. This medieval interpretation of Islam is synonymous with the Kingdom.

More often than not, the Saudi judiciary will allow the family of a female charged with a Zina offense (illicit sex) to determine her punishment. It matters not a whit to male family members if a female relative was forcibly raped. All that matters is that she was a party to illicit sex and has thus dishonored both herself and the family. In virtually every instance in which male family relatives adjudicate Zina punishment, a death sentence is agreed upon. At this point, strict measures are implemented to prevent the female from committing suicide. Such an outcome would defeat the Saudi family tradition of commingling execution with abject intimidation.

Two methods of family execution for a Saudi female are favored in the Kingdom. One favored method involves drowning the female in the family swimming pool. This brutality is witnessed by the extended family... sometimes numbering in the hundreds. Women and children are forced to attend and observe. The body remains in the water until it is fully bloated.

The second favored method is horrific almost beyond words. A room in the house is emptied of everything and sealed... plunging the room into total darkness. Within this pitch black enclosure, the female will remain until she expires from starvation. Before this end occurs though, she will first go insane. Female family members will be forced to listen to her almost inhuman screams for hours on end.

Typically, the corpse of the executed female will eventually be deposited in a shallow and unmarked grave far out in the Saudi desert. No one will ever mention her name again. In all ways, she has been expunged forever.

 

[UtahBill]

We aren't fighting the Saudis.

We should be....nearly all of the 9/11 Terrorists were Saudis....
But the Bush family has friends there, so they went after Iraq instead.
Go figure.

 

[Jerry]

But we are indeed engaged in a struggle against Wahabbism. This medieval interpretation of Islam is synonymous with the Kingdom.

More often than not, the Saudi judiciary will allow the family of a female charged with a Zina offense (illicit sex) to determine her punishment. It matters not a whit to male family members if a female relative was forcibly raped. All that matters is that she was a party to illicit sex and has thus dishonored both herself and the family. In virtually every instance in which male family relatives adjudicate Zina punishment, a death sentence is agreed upon. At this point, strict measures are implemented to prevent the female from committing suicide. Such an outcome would defeat the Saudi family tradition of commingling execution with abject intimidation.

Two methods of family execution for a Saudi female are favored in the Kingdom. One favored method involves drowning the female in the family swimming pool. This brutality is witnessed by the extended family... sometimes numbering in the hundreds. Women and children are forced to attend and observe. The body remains in the water until it is fully bloated.

The second favored method is horrific almost beyond words. A room in the house is emptied of everything and sealed... plunging the room into total darkness. Within this pitch black enclosure, the female will remain until she expires from starvation. Before this end occurs though, she will first go insane. Female family members will be forced to listen to her almost inhuman screams for hours on end.

Typically, the corpse of the executed female will eventually be deposited in a shallow and unmarked grave far out in the Saudi desert. No one will ever mention her name again. In all ways, she has been expunged forever.

Anything that puts a soldier between Wahabbism and women is okay in my book.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

fvcking savages.:doh

 

[Tashah]

fvcking savages.:doh

Even a convicted murderer in Saudi Arabia can expect a quick execution (beheading) in Riyadh's Deera Square (better known as Chop-Chop Square).

A Saudi female who is raped? An intended barbarism is inflicted.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Even a convicted murderer in Saudi Arabia can expect a quick execution (beheading) in Riyadh's Deera Square (better known as Chop-Chop Square).

A Saudi female who is raped? An intended barbarism is inflicted.

It is pure barbarism.....

 

[Monk-Eye]

Legacies Of Species Survivalism

"Legacies Of Species Survivalism"

We aren't fighting the Saudis.

Radical Islamic law is only inforced in that one country? Oh, I didn't realize.

We should be....nearly all of the 9/11 Terrorists were Saudis....But the Bush family has friends there, so they went after Iraq instead.
Go figure.

If israel wants a strict interpretation of the torah, etc. integrated as a system of government, it would be termed judaism.

If arabia wants a strict interpretation of the koran, etc. integrated as a system of government, it would be termed arabism.

However, save those adherents who, by conviction seek to sustain a genetic lineage from abraham -- metaphorically assured by the patriarchal (genetic) allegory of divine judgement (integrated with the traditions and customs of law), all others by reason of liberty are likely to see conversion to such a strict system as illegitimate to their personal interests (genetic, social, legal) and self governance.

Thus, the traditions of judaism from moses are identified with the genetic lineage of isaac (jews), and, the traditions of arabism from mohammad are identified with the genetic lineage of ishmael (arabs).

The problem and resolution, as stated before, is to identify the false pretenses of arabism's universality over its genetic specific origin and cultural contrivance.

How many people look to the judaism and feel compelled to convert to save their genetics and heritage?
How many people look to the arabism and feel compelled to convert to save their genetics and heritage?
Yet people look to the religion formerly known as islam (now termed arabism) and do not see that they may as well be asked to convert to judaism or arabism.

Demanding the following transliteration, for example; "The Islamic Republic of Iran" will now be formally recognized as the "The Arabic Republic Of Iran", etc.
Such intellectual challenges and identity renunciations should put knots in the slip.

 

[Vader]

But we are indeed engaged in a struggle against Wahabbism. This medieval interpretation of Islam is synonymous with the Kingdom.

More often than not, the Saudi judiciary will allow the family of a female charged with a Zina offense (illicit sex) to determine her punishment. It matters not a whit to male family members if a female relative was forcibly raped. All that matters is that she was a party to illicit sex and has thus dishonored both herself and the family. In virtually every instance in which male family relatives adjudicate Zina punishment, a death sentence is agreed upon. At this point, strict measures are implemented to prevent the female from committing suicide. Such an outcome would defeat the Saudi family tradition of commingling execution with abject intimidation.

Two methods of family execution for a Saudi female are favored in the Kingdom. One favored method involves drowning the female in the family swimming pool. This brutality is witnessed by the extended family... sometimes numbering in the hundreds. Women and children are forced to attend and observe. The body remains in the water until it is fully bloated.

The second favored method is horrific almost beyond words. A room in the house is emptied of everything and sealed... plunging the room into total darkness. Within this pitch black enclosure, the female will remain until she expires from starvation. Before this end occurs though, she will first go insane. Female family members will be forced to listen to her almost inhuman screams for hours on end.

Typically, the corpse of the executed female will eventually be deposited in a shallow and unmarked grave far out in the Saudi desert. No one will ever mention her name again. In all ways, she has been expunged forever.

Maybe it is time for the free world to declare war on wahabbism. Perhaps the Saudis will stop being racist islam-o-nazi apes will be less willing to continue being filthy barbarians if we start dropping thermite plazma bombs on cities like Riyad.

It's time for the apes to be civilized or ... extinct.

It's sounds horrible .. I know this and I do not like it at all; however, it is the only option left that will actually let the apes know we mean business.

:roll:

 

[Tashah]

Perhaps the Saudis will stop being racist islam-o-nazi apes will be less willing to continue being filthy barbarians if we start dropping thermite plazma bombs on cities like Riyad.

Bombs cannot differentiate between evildoers and their prey.

 

[UtahBill]

Bombs cannot differentiate between evildoers and their prey.

Well, not perfectly....
I am thinking that cruise missles targeting those mosques where evil doing is being taught would probably get the best bang for the buck...with the least "collateral damage".
The Saudis SHOULD have a lot of influence in the ME, but if they do, they are wasting it...

 

[Monk-Eye]

Pen As Sword

"Pen As Sword"

Well, not perfectly....
I am thinking that cruise missles targeting those mosques where evil doing is being taught would probably get the best bang for the buck...with the least "collateral damage". The Saudis SHOULD have a lot of influence in the ME, but if they do, they are wasting it...

Again, in the long run, for permanence, it would be more effective in defeating the illegitimacy of arabism and sharia law external to arabia, by pointing out that the religious edict is strictly meant for ishmael (arab descendants).

Remove the notion that arabism is universal.
Condescend conscription or adoption to arabism by anyone other than arabs.
Reject references to islam, or muslim, speak only of arabism.

 

[Hatuey]

Radical Islamic law is only inforced in that one country? Oh, I didn't realize.

Ummmm a country that happens to be our valuable ally in the war on terrorism according to the guy who tries to repeatedly justify the war. It's a losing argument to use the Saudi.

 

[Monk-Eye]

Wolves Dressed As Sheep

"Wolves Dressed As Sheep"

Ummmm a country that happens to be our valuable ally in the war on terrorism according to the guy who tries to repeatedly justify the war. It's a losing argument to use the Saudi.

The saudis are bed partners in oil by providing a stabilized region of reliable flow.
The saudis are the originators of arabism which they vagrantly export (wahhabism&salafism) as if it were meant for non-arabs.

 

[UtahBill]

Re: Wolves Dressed As Sheep

"Wolves Dressed As Sheep"
The saudis are the originators of arabism which they vagrantly export (wahhabism&salafism) as if it were meant for non-arabs.

Flagrantly, maybe?

 

[Hatuey]

Re: Wolves Dressed As Sheep

"Wolves Dressed As Sheep"
The saudis are bed partners in oil by providing a stabilized region of reliable flow.

While supporting terrorist activities on a global scale.

The saudis are the originators of arabism which they vagrantly export (wahhabism&salafism) as if it were meant for non-arabs.

What is Arabism? It's not listed on the internet. There is Pan-Arabism and Arab nationalism but no Arabism.

 

[Monk-Eye]

Name Calling

"Name Calling"

While supporting terrorist activities on a global scale.

Yes, it finances the spread of fundamentalist indoctrination and islamic conversion worldwide.

What is Arabism? It's not listed on the internet. There is Pan-Arabism and Arab nationalism but no Arabism.

The traditions of judaism from moses were passed to the descendants of isaac (jews).

The traditions of arabism from muhammad were given to the descendants of ishmael (arabs), where the "last prophet" implies a doctrine for the only other paternal lineage of abraham.

The term islam is a subversion against ethos, it fails to indicate that as judaism is for jews and judea (israel), arabism is for arabs and arabia (sic).

The term islam (islamic) abuses universality and in its place the term arabism (arabaic) is added.
The Arabaic Republic of ______ .

Rise of empire (632–750)
Muhammad began preaching Islam at Mecca before migrating to Medina, from where he united the tribes of Arabia into a singular Arab Muslim religious polity.

For the Umayyad aristocracy, Islam was viewed as a religion for Arabs only;[66] the economy of the Umayyad empire was based on the assumption that a majority of non-Muslims (Dhimmis) would pay taxes to the minority of Muslim Arabs. A non-Arab who wanted to convert to Islam was supposed to first become a client of an Arab tribe. Even after conversion, these new Muslims (mawali) did not achieve social and economic equality with the Arabs. The descendants of Muhammad's uncle Abbas ibn Abd al-Muttalib rallied discontented mawali, poor Arabs, and some Shi'a against the Umayyads and overthrew them with the help of their propagandist and general Abu Muslim, inaugurating the Abbasid dynasty in 750.

Ishmael (Hebrew: יִשְׁמָעֵאל, Standard Yišmaʿel Tiberian Yišmāʿêl; Arabic: إسماعيل, Ismā'īl) was Abraham's eldest son, born by his wife's handmaiden Hagar. Though born of Hagar, according to Mesopotamian law, Ishmael was credited as Sarah's son (Gn. 16:2)[1]
Both Jewish and Islamic traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people.

Judaism has generally viewed Ishmael as the son of Abraham.[1] Jews and Christians (the House of Israel) maintain that Isaac, Abraham's son by Sarah the free woman and the father of all Israel, rather than Ishmael was the true heir. This is supported in Genesis chapter 21 "in Isaac shall the seed be called".

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Isaac or Yitzchak (Hebrew: יִצְחָק, Standard Yiẓḥaq Tiberian Yiṣḥāq ; Arabic: إسحٰق, ʾIsḥāq ; "he will laugh") is the son of Abraham and Sarah, and the father of Jacob and Esau as described in the Hebrew Bible. His story is told in the Book of Genesis. Isaac was the longest-lived of the patriarchs, and the only biblical patriarch whose name was not changed. Isaac was the only patriarch who did not leave Canaan, although he once tried to leave and God told him not to do so.

Arabism (islam) is not for non-arabs.
Arabism (islam) is arab cultural hegemony.

 

[Hatuey]

Re: Name Calling

"Name Calling"
Yes, it finances the spread of fundamentalist indoctrination and islamic conversion worldwide.
The traditions of judaism from moses were passed to the descendants of isaac (jews).

The traditions of arabism from muhammad were given to the descendants of ishmael (arabs), where the "last prophet" implies a doctrine for the only other paternal lineage of abraham.

The term islam is a subversion against ethos, it fails to indicate that as judaism is for jews and judea (israel), arabism is for arabs and arabia (sic).

The term islam (islamic) abuses universality and in its place the term arabism (arabaic) is added.
The Arabaic Republic of ______ .

Arabism (islam) is not for non-arabs.
Arabism (islam) is arab cultural hegemony.

Your source tells of the origins of Arabs and what Mohammed did when Islam first started. However it ignores Koranic text

Surah 49, verse 13:

*{O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely the most honorable of you in the sight of God is the most pious of you. Indeed God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.}*

For Muslims God does not see Arabs and non-Arabs. He sees those who were pious in their lifetimes and those who were not so pious in their lifetimes.

 

[Vader]

Bombs cannot differentiate between evildoers and their prey.

Perhaps not, and that is truly horrible; however, the Saudi hate-mongers need to be made to understand that their use of Islam as a tool of hatred spreading and evil-doing will not be tolerated.

I sympathize for those people in Saudi who want to think for themselves but cannot because their minds are corrupted by the lies and misconceptions being forced on them in the name of Is-lame.

The fact remains --- If after 9-11 we had dropped a few thermite plazma bombs on Riyad, funding for Al Quack would have dried up. It would have been made clear to those barbarians that their funding of murderers will not be tolerated.

 

[Monk-Eye]

Bits And Pieces

"Bits And Pieces"

Your source tells of the origins of Arabs and what Mohammed did when Islam first started.

Exactly, and as near to the source of origin as possible indicates the intent of arabism for the lineage of ishmael.

However it ignores Koranic text Surah 49, verse 13:

*{O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely the most honorable of you in the sight of God is the most pious of you. Indeed God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.}*

For Muslims God does not see Arabs and non-Arabs. He sees those who were pious in their lifetimes and those who were not so pious in their lifetimes.

He, as in the personified protectorate for the patriarchal genetic lineage of abrahamic descendants?

Is that little trist of metaphor supposed to dissuade the obvious indication that sharia law is to arabism as the 613 laws of the torah are to judaism?

Piety, ha!!
Arabism is not universal, it is a conjecture for supremacy (a false allegation) of arab traditions and culture, and piety postured there is nothing more than fluff for arab cultural hegemony?

You only think you are ready to engage in a philosophy of "God".