We read the transcript of the phone conversations with the ambassador. He didn't lie.
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No good deed goes unpunished. I was trying to help you avoid embarrassing yourself.
No good deed goes unpunished. I was trying to help you avoid embarrassing yourself.
Didn't lie to whom, exactly?
He lied to the FBI, and admitted to having done so, under oath, before a judge, twice.
You lose. Again.
To the FBI. I don't have transcripts of what he said to Pence.
Nope, no discussion of sanctions from Flynn in the transcripts.
What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the questions he simply didn't answer | Daily Mail Online
What Mueller asked Trump, what he said in reply - and the string of written questions he simply ignored including: did you ask anyone to set up a back channel to Moscow?
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SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE:
g. On July 27, 2016, in response to a question about whether you would recognize Crimea as Russian territory and lift sanctions on Russia, you said: 'We'll be looking at that. Yeah, we'll be looking.' Did you intend to communicate by that statement or at any other time during the campaign a willingness to lift sanctions and/or recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected?
i. What consideration did you give to lifting sanctions and/or recognizing Russia's annexation of Crimea if you were elected? Describe who you spoke with about this topic, when, the substance of the discussion(s).
TRUMP: No response = (obstruction of Mueller investigation)
Yet the logan act doesn't apply because Flynn was part of an incoming administrative person.
The logan act has never been used to get anyone with and frankly there are questions about it's constitutionality from the get go.
It was FLynn's job to converse with other national leaders. It was his job in the Trump admin.
Please learn facts before posting nonsense that doesn't apply.
To the FBI. I don't have transcripts of what he said to Pence.
Face the Nation
January 15, 2017
JOHN DICKERSON: Let me ask you about it was reported by David Ignatius that the incoming national security advisor Michael Flynn was in touch with the Russian ambassador on the day the United States government announced sanctions for Russian interference with the election. Did that contact help with that Russian kind of moderate response to it? That there was no counter-reaction from Russia. Did the Flynn conversation help pave the way for that sort of more temperate Russian response?
MIKE PENCE: I talked to General Flynn about that conversation and actually was initiated on Christmas Day he had sent a text to the Russian ambassador to express not only Christmas wishes but sympathy for the loss of life in the airplane crash that took place. It was strictly coincidental that they had a conversation. They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia.
JOHN DICKERSON: So did they ever have a conversation about sanctions ever on those days or any other day?
MIKE PENCE: They did not have a discussion contemporaneous with U.S. actions on--
JOHN DICKERSON: But what about after--
MIKE PENCE: --my conversation with General Flynn. Well, look. General Flynn has been in touch with diplomatic leaders, security leaders in some 30 countries. That’s exactly what the incoming national security advisor--
JOHN DICKERSON: Absolutely.
MIKE PENCE: --should do. But what I can confirm, having spoken to him about it, is that those conversations that happened to occur around the time that the United States took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions.
JOHN DICKERSON: But that still leaves open the possibility that there might have been other conversations about the sanctions.
MIKE PENCE: I don’t believe there were more conversations.
Meet the Press
January 15, 2017
Chuck Todd: I want to talk about, because the issue has to do with Russia, and there was another dispute and some concern that, on the same day that the Obama administration announced new sanctions against Russia for their meddling in the 2016 election, that the incoming National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, was on the phone multiple times with the Russian ambassador United States. Can you say definitively that there was no promises, no winks, no anything that somehow there was an acknowledgement that these sanctions will go away as quickly as possible once the inauguration takes place?
Reince Priebus: So Chuck, almost every single day, General Flynn talks to counterparts and ambassadors from all over the world, almost every single day. That's his job. So as a National Security Advisor, for those that don't know, one of his jobs is to be in constant communication with his counterparts in security issues all over the world.
The tick tock on this is that, on Christmas, the two of them texted each other "Merry Christmas." A couple days later, this ambassador texted General Flynn that he wanted to talk. And then the next day, they had a conversation, which did happen to be that same day. But I have talked to General Flynn. None of that came up.
The subject matter of sanctions or the actions taken by the Obama did not come up in the conversation. In fact, it was the sports team that was in an unfortunate plane accident. They talked about setting up a phone call after inauguration. And they also talked about a conference in Syria, or a conference in regard to ISIS in Syria. So those were the only subjects that came up. But there's no controversy in General Flynn talking to his counterparts around the world.
Chuck Todd: So there was no challenge of American policy currently by Mr. Flynn with the Russian ambassador?
Reince Priebus: None.
White House Press Briefing
January 23, 2017
QUESTION: So, Sean, a couple -- a couple of questions here, if you don’t mind.
First one on Russia. The administration was asked about multiple interactions between National Security Adviser Mike Flynn and a Russian ambassador. I believe you at the time -- the administration at that time said it’s -- the calls were related to setting up a discussion later between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
SPICER: That’s right.
QUESTION: Were those conversations about anything else other than setting up that discussion? And why has that discussion not yet happened between the president and President Putin?
SPICER: So there’s been one call. I talked to General Flynn about this again last night. One call, talked about four subjects. One was the loss of life that occurred in the plane crash that took their military choir, two was Christmas and holiday greetings, three was to -- to talk about a conference in Syria on ISIS and four was to set up a -- to talk about after the inauguration setting up a call between President Putin and President Trump.
That -- I don’t believe that that has been set up yet because the call was to say -- they did follow up, I’m sorry, two days ago about how to facilitate that call once again. So there have been a total of two calls with the ambassador and General Flynn. And the second call came -- I think it’s now three days ago -- that was to say once he gets into office, can we set up that call? It hasn’t -- to my knowledge, has not occurred yet.
QUESTION: Any other conversations between General Flynn and Russian members of the government?
SPICER: Not that I’m aware of. And when I say that, what I’m saying is during the transition, I asked General Flynn that -- whether or not there were any other conversations beyond the ambassador and he said no.
Read the article:
Yates also rejected assertions that a discussion of a potential violation by Flynn of the Logan Act — a largely obsolete 18th-century law intended to prevent private citizens from interfering in foreign policy — was a central focus of the FBI’s reason for pursuing its Flynn investigation. Rather, she said, Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak and subsequent lies about those calls both publicly and to FBI agents investigating Russia’s efforts, were an obvious counterintelligence risk.
Maybe he shouldn't have lied to the FBI then, which is a crime.
Yet the logan act doesn't apply because Flynn was part of an incoming administrative person.
The logan act has never been used to get anyone with and frankly there are questions about it's constitutionality from the get go.
It was FLynn's job to converse with other national leaders. It was his job in the Trump admin.
Please learn facts before posting nonsense that doesn't apply.
Reread the quote I posted. Slowly.
He admitted he lied to the FBI. Pled guilty and was convicted. What the hell are you even talking about? Pence, Priebus and Spicer all publicly stated facts which were later shown to be untrue.
Flynn told all three of these men the same lie he subsequently repeated to the FBI. If that isn't a well-established established pattern of deception, I don't know what it is.
Nope, no discussion of sanctions from Flynn in the transcripts.
Yet the logan act doesn't apply because Flynn was part of an incoming administrative person.
The logan act has never been used to get anyone with and frankly there are questions about it's constitutionality from the get go.
It was FLynn's job to converse with other national leaders. It was his job in the Trump admin.
Please learn facts before posting nonsense that doesn't apply.
Understanding the Michael Flynn Case: Separating the Wheat from the Chaff, and the Proper from the Improper
Understanding the Michael Flynn Case: Separating the Wheat from the Chaff, and the Proper from the Improper
Updated with analysis of declassified Flynn-Kislyak transcripts
by Marty Lederman
May 29, 2020
...According to the New York Times, the Obama Administration had made a “pointed request” to the Trump transition team to avoid sending conflicting signals to foreign officials before the inauguration and to include State Department personnel when contacting such officials. That’s fairly standard-issue stuff, as reflected in the Partnership for Public Service’s widely consulted Presidential Transition Guide. It was wrong for Flynn to disregard the administration’s request and the longstanding norm—and particularly to do so in the way he did here. Contrary to the two Freudian slips in the DOJ brief, Flynn was not the “incumbent National Security Advisor” at the time—Susan Rice was. DOJ is right that incoming officers commonly communicate during the presidential transition with their future foreign partners so that they can “begin and build relationships with soon-to-be counterparts.” Friendly congratulatory calls and innocuous, generic “I look forward to working together” communications are commonplace. It’s another thing entirely, however, to signal a subversion of the sitting President’s foreign policy objectives—let alone to do so secretly, so that the U.S. government is unaware of what’s being said and done. (To be sure, the government in this case eventually discovered what Flynn and Kislyak discussed, but not for several days, during which time the State Department and other agencies were in the dark about what Putin was up to and why.)...
Hoe-kay... I've got all day, motivated by my fascination with the tenacity of cultish flavored denial or mendacious insincerity, whichever it turns out to be. IOW, nix the Sgt. Schultz schtick and reluctantly admit you do see something. Trump and Barr give off quite an odor.
This is from K.T. MacFarland's fourth 302... at least the fourth, I've lost count. Who will be the first to claim prosecutors were threatening to put her son in jail.... wait...that was the excuse for Flynn's brief cooperation.... The 4th page image below...isn't she describing an attempt to bribe (tamper with) a witness?
Does anybody reading this have a more nuanced understanding of why Trump left Priebus on the tarmac, standing in the rain. Sloppy work in Priebus's handling of Ms. MacFarland, to say the least!
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Sally Yates Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy : NPR
Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?
Sally Yates is a partisan member of the Obama administration who has been implicated in possible illegally unmasking U.S. citizens. Surely you don't trust her to not cover up her own tracks? She is protecting herself and others involved.
Sally Yates - Wikipedia
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Career
In 1986, Yates was admitted to the State Bar of Georgia.[11] From 1986 to 1989, Yates was an associate at the law firm King & Spalding in Atlanta, specializing in commercial litigation.[11] In 1989, she was hired as Assistant U.S. Attorney by Bob Barr for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Georgia.[12]
Bob Barr - Wikipedia
Robert Laurence Barr Jr.[1] (born November 5, 1948) is an American attorney and politician. He served as a federal prosecutor and as a Congressman.[2]....
He represented Georgia's 7th congressional district as a Republican from 1995 to 2003.[2][3] Barr attained national prominence as one of the leaders of the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.[2]
Early in her career at the Department of Justice, Yates prosecuted a variety of types of cases including white-collar fraud and political corruption.[10] In 1994, she became Chief of the Fraud and Public Corruption Section. She was the lead prosecutor in the case of Eric Rudolph, who committed the Centennial Olympic Park bombing,[13] a terrorist convicted for a series of anti-abortion and anti-gay bombings across the southern United States between 1996 and 1998, which killed two people and injured over 120 others.[14] She rose to First Assistant U.S. Attorney in 2002 and to Acting U.S. Attorney in 2004. In the U.S. Attorney's office she held leadership positions under both Republican and Democratic administrations.[15]
President Barack Obama nominated Yates to be U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Georgia. She was confirmed by the Senate on March 10, 2010.[12] Yates was the first woman to hold that position in the Northern District of Georgia.[10] During her time as a U.S. Attorney, Yates was appointed by Attorney General Eric Holder to serve as Vice Chair of the Attorney General's Advisory Committee.[12]
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Common sense makes it obvious that... oh, nevermind!
Yep, it's right there. That a twumpist would have to deny that simple reality isn't really surprising.
You lose. Again.
Copy and paste his words that most evidence his discussion of sanctions.
BFD It was going to change when Trump took over in a couple of weeks anyway.Sally Yates Says Michael Flynn Talks Neutered U.S. Russia Policy : NPR
Its kind of a no brainer, isn't it?
What did Obama say in his ahem, alleged warning?
Post number 105 lol!
You did say it is funny. And yes you are right.
So you haven't read the transcript? NICE!
Yes I have. Flynn doesn't as much as utter the word sanctions.
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