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3 to 1 odds Trump tweets within the next 72 hours this was Obama's fault..
1 to 1 odds that Obama will be ineffectual and useless in this situation.
The assassination of Russia's Ambassador to Turkey was a heinous and dishonorable act.
I would say he had a significant security detail. Wonder how the shooter got close.
What do you want the President of the United States to do in response to the assassination of Putin's stooge?
How did you feel about Benghazi?
My brain is full of Christmas stuff, cleaning the house, plowing the driveway, loading the bin up with firewood and you expected me to think? Ain't happening today bro.
Badly. But this isn't about fairness or equity. Context matters. Our ambassador in Benghazi was slain by Islamist militants because of what he represented, and for his service as part of a wider mission that I believe to be justice. Conversely, I believe that the Russian ambassador represented a perverse mission and was an abetter of much criminal bloodshed. Therefore, I do not mourn his death.
Russian ambassador to Turkey shot in Ankara | The Independent
I would say he had a significant security detail. Wonder how the shooter got close.
Maybe Russia will start reconsidering their carpet bomb approach to Syria.
Hang onto your undies folks, cause it's gonna get ****ing Leary.
I think the other question would be what the ambassador was doing without any kind of security detail, what I've read so far suggests he was a veteran diplomat (Served in North Korea in the 80's) and it just wasn't his style, well unfortunately it probably cost him his life.
Still though, for a veteran diplomat to not take precautions as ambassador to a country that had recently shot down one of his own countries jets, had, had multiple terrorist attacks in the last year and an extremely heightened possibility of many more, an attempted military coup and not thought to have any kind of protection at the behest of the Russian Foreign Ministry at a highly public gathering is very odd.
I think the other question would be what the ambassador was doing without any kind of security detail, what I've read so far suggests he was a veteran diplomat (Served in North Korea in the 80's) and it just wasn't his style, well unfortunately it probably cost him his life.
Still though, for a veteran diplomat to not take precautions as ambassador to a country that had recently shot down one of his own countries jets, had, had multiple terrorist attacks in the last year and an extremely heightened possibility of many more, an attempted military coup and not thought to have any kind of protection at the behest of the Russian Foreign Ministry at a highly public gathering is very odd.
The United States has been doing the same bull**** in the Middle East and South America that Russia has been doing in the Middle East. Don't pretend we are much if not any better than Russia in regards to what we do to other nations for power in the region. This man had a job to do. Which was trying to be diplomatic between nations to prevent things like this from happening. You have no idea what he was involved with. There are many people in Russia that aren't personally responsible for the bad things that some leaders might do.
You sounded pretty pissed.
He died.
Nope, just tired. I had a long list I have been working through. I had to finish building a log dining table, move half a cord of firewood from the wood shed to the bin on the deck, mop all the floors upstairs (moved all of the furniture), go to town and finish shopping (I hate going to town), take the dog to get him groomed, help a neighbor watch over about 60 slash piles the forest department set right off his property, remove two gates during a snow storm so we could get into the property, check on another neighbor's property because of the same fires (who sets fires with 70 mph winds foretasted?)deliver packages to some neighbors because FedEx and UPS can't get to their properties when the road is snowed over, put up a Christmas tree and decorate it, decorated the inside of the house, decorated the outside of the house and a bunch of other stuff, all this week. Normal stuff around here with Christmas thrown in. I was just tired and not long for words. I can't wait for Christmas so we can eat some good food, spend time with family and then move on to the projects that I want to do.
And all before 9am. :2razz:
Putin vowed revenge.
Benghazi was horrible. The compound had no security. But the worst of it is if security had been present, they weren't authorized to carry weapons.
This is a super complex story so I'm just throwing out some very limited details of what happened. I realize what I'm posting is sketchy at best, but considering all of the players involved, I can't possibly lay the whole thing out in this thread.
Congress is at fault for failing to fund the type of security needed. The law (enacted in 1991) by Congress stipulated only "unarmed security". The law controls how much the State Department could spend on security in that particular area - wouldn't be enough to pay for a crossing guards at a public elementary school.
The security contractor was located somewhere in Denmark (or in that region), and few knew anything about this phantom company. It was a small office front. And the folks who did know about this contractor also knew it was bad news. It's owner was considered to be linked to a company in Libya who was involved in all sorts of bribery gigs and other shady dealings in the Middle East through dealing with the State Depart, which was aware of the people involved but didn't raise red flags when they showed up on the bidders list.
The shady security contractor didn't attend the bidders meeting but submitted a bid prior to the meeting and underbid by only a few percent the company who was actually qualified to provide security (which also served the US for many years in very hot spots) and according to the law passed by Congress, that low bidder got the bid regardless of qualification.
State Department employees who were over the acquisition of security for US diplomats were negligent, incompetent, fail to vet the security contractor which cost the lives of the folks who died in Benghazi. All the State Department had to do is turn around and point the finger at Congress, which totally fell through the cracks with the MSM about their role in the debacle, when it came time to call out those who were accountable. Clinton probably didn't directly know how things came down until it was too late. Then it was CYA time.
The United States has been doing the same bull**** in the Middle East and South America that Russia has been doing in the Middle East. Don't pretend we are much if not any better than Russia in regards to what we do to other nations for power in the region. This man had a job to do. Which was trying to be diplomatic between nations to prevent things like this from happening. You have no idea what he was involved with. There are many people in Russia that aren't personally responsible for the bad things that some leaders might do.
Thank you for the back gorund info. A real ffn mess
Any diplomat killed makes for open season on all, sad the man died. Without Diplomats where would we be?
More wars comes to mind.
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