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Russia Seeks to 'Liberate' East Ukraine: Defense Minister

Rogue Valley

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Russia Urges Ukrainian Forces to ‘Immediately’ Lay Down Arms - The Moscow Times

Russia on Tuesday called on Ukrainian forces to "immediately" lay down arms and issued a new ultimatum for the defenders of the besieged port city of Mariupol to give up.
www.themoscowtimes.com




Translation: The Russian Federation will once again war-crime its way to stealing as much Ukrainian territory as is possible.
 



Russia is liberating Kherson. Live with it. You know Roubles are already being in Kherson?
 
Irredentist said:
By "liberation" I assume you mean "conquest".
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I am pro Russian. So I see it as liberating the oppressed ethnic Russian minorities in east and south Ukraine.

And both words are simply both sides of same coin anyways. To liberate oppressed ethnic Russian minorities the Banderas regime in Kiev must be conquered.
 
If that "liberation" involves the conquest and oppression of the entire nation of Ukraine, then it isn't much of a liberation at all. Why didn't the ethnic Russians of eastern and southern Ukraine simply move to Russia if they were so oppressed? It's not far.
 
Irredentist said:
If that "liberation" involves the conquest and oppression of the entire nation of Ukraine, then it isn't much of a liberation at all.
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Then we will be dealing with "liberation" and "conquest". For the east and littoral of Ukraine it will be liberation for the ethnic Russians. For the ethnic Ukrainians of west Ukraine it will be conquest. I don't advocate the later, the ethnic Ukrainian nation has a right to independence, but not at the expense of Russian locals of east and south.



Irredentist said:
Why didn't the ethnic Russians of eastern and southern Ukraine simply move to Russia if they were so oppressed? It's not far.
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Strange logic. Does that mean ethnic Ukrainians should also move to Poland and Germany if Russia occupies all Ukraine? That's a new one. An oppressed population should head off elsewhere instead of evicting the oppressor!
 
The Russians are dropping "bunker buster" bombs on Mariupol's Azovstahl Steel Plant even though they are aware that up to 1,000 civilians (and children) are also hiding there.

The Russkies keep at it anyway. Next, they will try poison gas.
 
Didn't Shoigu suffer a massive heart attack and get sidelined by Putin?

Mystery deepens over Russia's 'missing' defence minister Sergei Shoigu

General Sergei Shoigu, 66, has been sidelined by the Kremlin leader over Russia's war failures, according to some sources. Others say he suffered a 'massive heart attack'.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Rogue Valley said:
The Russians are dropping "bunker buster" bombs on Mariupol's Azovstahl Steel Plant even though they are aware that up to 1,000 civilians (and children) are also hiding there.

The Russkies keep at it anyway. Next, they will try poison gas.
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Rogue Valley said:
The Russians are dropping "bunker buster" bombs on Mariupol's Azovstahl Steel Plant even though they are aware that up to 1,000 civilians (and children) are also hiding there.
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Why would a civilian be at Azovstahl steel plant? If there are any civilians there they were conducted there at the point of Naxi Azov rifles to serve as human shields.



Rogue Valley said:
The Russkies keep at it anyway. Next, they will try poison gas.
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Azov already claimed they had been dusted by chemicals. It turned out to false. Not that they were lying. Ukro Billionaire Akhmetov's steel plants probably have all kinds of chemicals stored there. And Azov has been bombed round the clock. It's likely our Banderas mistook some of Akhmetov's chemicals for poison gas.
 
Juin said:
Why would a civilian be at Azovstahl steel plant?
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It's the safest place remaining in Mariupol.

20,000 civilians dead. The stink from this war crime will never leave Russia.
 

Liberating like they liberated the Baltics and Eastern Europe.
 
Russian minorities were not oppressed in Ukraine. This is Russian disinformation.

https://www.state.gov/fact-vs-fiction-russian-disinformation-on-ukraine/
https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/ukrai...reats-ethnic-russians-as-second-rate-citizens
 
Rogue Valley said:
It's the safest place remaining in Mariupol.
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Azovstahl steel works is the safest place remaining in Mariupol? Looks to me like it is a steel coffin.



Rogue Valley said:
20,000 civilians dead. The stink from this war crime will never leave Russia.
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Blame lies fully on the fanatics of the Azov Battalion.


lwf said:
Russian minorities were not oppressed in Ukraine. This is Russian disinformation.
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LOL You will have to peddle that to som other simpleton
 
Juin said:
Azovstahl steel works is the safest place remaining in Mariupol? Looks to me like it is a steel coffin.
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No other place inMariupol that will survive Russian bombs.

Juin said:
Blame lies fully on the fanatics of the Azov Battalion.
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They didn't invade Ukraine. Russia invaded Ukraine.

Juin said:
LOL You will have to peddle that to som other simpleton
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You were the only one available atm.
 
Juin said:
I am pro Russian. So I see it as liberating the oppressed ethnic Russian minorities in east and south Ukraine.
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Did you know Ida-Viru is over 70% ethnically Russian? Perhaps Putin should try liberating them.
 
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