givejonadollar
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I don't really support Ron Paul, in fact I despise his foreign policy. However I'd rather have him in office over Obama.
You sympathize with nation building. How...... Neoconservative of you.:2wave:
You sympathize with nation building. How...... Neoconservative of you.:2wave:
Historically speaking, can you think of a time when America hasn't engaged in nation building?
Back when we were first founded in the 1700's :mrgreen: Technically we were building ourselves. I am all for supporting and helping out our allies like Israel. However i am a little skeptical about the War on Terror. I would like to see a stronger national defense and less of a militant (not military) presence around the world. However we should help our allies and remove regimes that threaten our national security.
Historically speaking, can you think of a time when America hasn't engaged in nation building?
Based on the responses I have seen so far, the Liberals do seem to side with war. Liberals have gotten us into the vast majority of our wars, including Vietnam. Iraq is the only exception. You think the Liberals' opposition to Iraq was because a Republican was in office?
**DanaRhea stirs the pot**
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I'd vote for Sarah Palin LOOOOOONG before I vote for Ron Paul.
Historically speaking, can you think of a time when America hasn't engaged in nation building?
I know nothing of Paul's foreign policy, but I assume it is noninterventionalist, which I would support.
I think his domestic policy would destroy the country though and I consider domestic policy to be far more important since I live in this country and not abroad.
My only problem with Obama is that he is too beholden to business.
The problem I find is the notion that 'nation building' is something new to our country. We started nation building the minute we ourselves became a nation. We've had our hands in Mexico for over 200 years and as the culture of globalism has expanded we've only dug deeper and deeper into other countries. Latin America has been the U.S.'s little experiment in nation building for only the last 120 years. It is really sad that people think we only started being intrusive during the cold war.
Not the point. You will hear many on the libertarian isle call for a "Laissez Faire" economic policy similar to the 18th and 19th century. However, "laissez faire" has only existed in third world nations and in the theoretical realm. The US has never held an actual "hands off" approach to the economy. This does not mean the government should "manage" the economy because of historical track records.
The US government has not always been in the business of nation building. I can think of many decades in which we were not setting up so called democracies in culturally non democratic parts of the world.
Wait what? Sympathize with nation building? My biggest beef with Paul is his stance on Israel and the War on Terror.
"The war on terror"? :lamo
You mean like the pathetic attempts to keep airliners safe? Or.... Invading Iraq because they had mobile bomb factories?
BTW; Israel can take care of itself.
My point was that calling him 'neo-conservative' for supporting strong foreign policy is kind of dishonest. If anything neo-conservativism is an approach to foreign policy. One which is very precise about where it wants to do the 'nation building'(the Middle East). I support strong foreign policy but I believe it should be measured. Not knee-jerk reactions to please either the left or right.
From his posting record, he can be accurately be labeled a neo-con. I do not believe a strong foreign policy is mutually exclusive to global military bases that overstretch our entire military.
Neo-cons cheer for the war on terror. Yet nobody has a clue how many "enemies of the state" pass through the Mexican border on a daily basis. It kinda flies in the face of logic to believe the best way to keep this country safe is to deploy troops all over the globe. Even if it to "ensure" our investments are safe.
Unless of course you view it perfectly acceptable for China to build military bases all over Africa.
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