RNC Chairman Race-Who'd You Pick?

[Sir Loin]

The problem is you would have to shake the religious right from the party to do it.

I agree though Newt would be a good choice.

I disagree. But then I eschew the idea that the “religious right” has anymore a stranglehold on the party today than it did back when Newt worked on the Contract with America over a decade and a half ago. Great hot button media sound byte phrase; IMO usually employed by someone from the left with less than noble intentions.

Besides real religious right wingers believe in forgiveness and redemption and will certainly see their way to doing so with Newt. Basic misunderstanding of yours IMO. Also I was around back then and most people on the right thought he got railroaded. The actual outcome of the "Newt investigations" and his work since then has earned him even more credibility with that crowd IMO.:roll:

 

[TheNextEra]

I disagree. But then I eschew the idea that the “religious right” has anymore a stranglehold on the party today than it did back when Newt worked on the Contract with America over a decade and a half ago.

Well the only way to find that out would be to have a Republican candidate that didn't pander to their views during an election.

My guess is that candidate would lose unless I am wrong and the religious right doesn't control the party. Only one way to find out though and that is to find a candidate that doesn't pander to them and win.

 

[Sir Loin]

Well the only way to find that out would be to have a Republican candidate that didn't pander to their views during an election.

So which of “their” views was pandered to in the last election? If you are speaking of the last POTUS election.

My guess is that candidate would lose unless I am wrong and the religious right doesn't control the party. Only one way to find out though and that is to find a candidate that doesn't pander to them and win.

You ascribe a lot more credulity to your position than I do. For example when you speak of a "candidate" what exactly do you mean by “that candidate would lose” and precisely which "voters" do you speak of?

BTW-Just to clarify, Newt is my answer to this question.

 

[Wessexman]

The problem is you would have to shake the religious right from the party to do it.

I agree though Newt would be a good choice.

Why do they have to this?

I think you mean you'd like to see it. That is a different thing.

 

[AuHtwoh64]

Just announced on FNC: Michael Steel gets the job as party Chairman of the RNC

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[StandUpChuck]

A black guy or hispanic... would piss of the base so big time, and bring the RNC closer to mainstream again.

Accusing republicans of being racists is offensive.

 

[Hatuey]

Accusing republicans of being racists is offensive.

:rofl

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican method of winning Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting racism among white voters.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Southern Strategy was used as recently as the 2000 election. During this election, a push poll suggested to conservative Republican South Carolina primary voters that primary opponent John McCain had fathered an "illegitimate black child." (In fact, Cindy McCain had adopted a baby from a Bangladeshi orphanage.) McCain was defeated.[22]

"y the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."[23] However prominent Republican and conservative commentators denounced Mehlman for his apology, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity among them.[24]

Ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. Oh my.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Are you foolishly infering racism in the GOP? What do you base this on? :roll:

Well one of the contenders for chairmanship sent out tapes with "barack the magic negro" on them, and another candidate stated that he became a Republican because of integration...

 

[the makeout hobo]

He won't have to counter Obama. Obama himself will show during his 4 year tenure that we need someone else.

And if he doesn't?

Just announced on FNC: Michael Steel gets the job as party Chairman of the RNC

...

It'll look like the Republicans picked a black man to try to keep up with the Democrats, mark my words. That's how this'll come out.

 

[the makeout hobo]

Accusing republicans of being racists is offensive.

Says the man whose avatar is Obama with a Tupac head wrap.

 

[StandUpChuck]

Says the man whose avatar is Obama with a Tupac head wrap.

1) I'm not a man (see the gender sign under my name)

2) That's not a Tupac head wrap, Einstein. It's the hat Aretha Franklin wore to sing at the inauguration, and it's become a bit of a sport around the web to put the hat on kittens, political figures, celebrities, babies, ...etc.

3) Tupac would never wear anything so geeky.

I'm a friggen SICK of people pointing fingers and crying, scratch that, LOOKING for racism where it doesn't exist. DO NOT ever make that assumption about me again, bub.

 

[the makeout hobo]

1) I'm not a man (see the gender sign under my name)

2) That's not a Tupac head wrap, Einstein. It's the hat Aretha Franklin wore to sing at the inauguration, and it's become a bit of a sport around the web to put the at on kittens, political figures, babies, ...etc.

I'm a friggen SICK of people pointing fingers and crying, scratch that, LOOKING for racism where it doesn't exist. DO NOT ever make that assumption about me again, bub.

Alright, I apologize. There is still quite a legacy of racism in the Republican Party though... to quote Lee Atwater, a very prominant Republican strategist...

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964… and that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster...

Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps...?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can't say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”[7]

 

[StandUpChuck]

Alright, I apologize. There is still quite a legacy of racism in the Republican Party though... to quote Lee Atwater, a very prominant Republican strategist...

I appreciate your apology, and I accept. Lee Atwater has been dead for what 20 years? I doubt his opinion means anything these days. Robert Byrd however, sees white n*****s and forget to censor himself. Every party has racist jerks. The repubs don't corner that market. Frankly, I think sexism is more of an issue.

 

[the makeout hobo]

I appreciate your apology, and I accept. Lee Atwater has been dead for what 20 years? I doubt his opinion means anything these days. Robert Byrd however, sees white n*****s and forget to censor himself. Every party has racist jerks. The repubs don't corner that market. Frankly, I think sexism is more of an issue.

Even though Atwater is dead, I don't think racism is dead in the Republican Party. Thanks to Atwater, people like Reagan and Nixon won by picking up the votes of racist whites in the south. Those voters are still part of the Republican coalition, and still have a good amount of influence on the party. To pretend they've just gone away is foolish.

 

[Cilogy]

Even though Atwater is dead, I don't think racism is dead in the Republican Party. Thanks to Atwater, people like Reagan and Nixon won by picking up the votes of racist whites in the south. Those voters are still part of the Republican coalition, and still have a good amount of influence on the party. To pretend they've just gone away is foolish.

I don't think she's saying that they're gone.

Personally I think racism will always be there in Reps and Dems, I also agree that sexism is something that needs to be focused on more.

Right StandUpChuck?

 

[Sir Loin]

Accusing republicans of being racists is offensive.

A black guy or hispanic... would piss of the base so big time, and bring the RNC closer to mainstream again.

That my dear is what is called a PeteEUism. Allow me to demonstrate a PeteEUism:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-elections/40862-changing-face-us-politics.html#post1057841257

To me it is clear that the states where race still matters a considerable deal are Republican and where it does not, it is Democratic. This is also reflected in the polices of the 2 parties.

:rofl

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





Ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. Oh my.

Speaking of Ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha, the republicans are racist according to an article on Wikipedia? Good God son, tell me you have not been into your pipe-weed that much today! Is it that good longbottom?

Even though Atwater is dead, I don't think racism is dead in the Republican Party. Thanks to Atwater, people like Reagan and Nixon won by picking up the votes of racist whites in the south. Those voters are still part of the Republican coalition, and still have a good amount of influence on the party. To pretend they've just gone away is foolish.

Unless you don’t want to argue that racism is not dead in the Democratic Party, I’d have no problem saying there might still be some in some of the members. The fact of the matter, which has been pointed out to you already, is that the Republican Party hardly has a stranglehold on racism in American politics. If you insist on going backward in time to make your argument, you allow for the same as regards the Democratic Party. As pointed out elsewhere there is a historical record to contend with, you seem to be acting as if there is not one which at best leaves your interpretation of the same suspect.

 

[Jessica]

Duncan strains to keep rivals at bay - Alexander Burns - Politico.com

It appears that Mike Duncan, the current chairman, is the odds on favorite. But who is likely to emerge as the top challenger? Who would stand the best chance against the incumbent?

Ron Paul, if he wants the job.