CNN had a pretty good segment with a former addict.
He talked about the bad batch which has a way of circulating the cities in the East.
And ironic that addicts especially in New York city would be trying to actually get this tainted batch due to its strength.
Don't remember the name of the chemical in the batch, started with a "P".
A former student of mine in college was found like this by his Mother.
Pure agony for the parents forever.
My generation has lost 50 years of musicians and talent.
I have lost 38 years of students/student's parents/friends this way.
I have to carry on for those I still tutor and help .
The best I can do as an active retired teacher is to still try to make a difference with kids/parentsWhile I have no reason to doubt what you say, I don't see how it's a relevant response to my post directed toward Hicup.
Not really to me.
As an ex-alcoholic/drug addict myself...whenever I watched him, I always assumed he was either a drinker and/or an addict. He just had that look.
No, it's not at all scientific.
It's just something you get used to when you are around addicts (like I used to be).
I managed to quit before it killed me.
I am very sorry that he did not.
How quickly you judge. And what have you brought to the world?
Tangibles, unlike Hoffman. Anything else?
Tim-
Nameless bum dies on the street of drug overduse... "God what a parasitic loser"
Hollywood actor dies of drug overdose... "O Lord what a tragedy, he was taken before his time, what a genius, its so sad"
That reminds me, Whitney Houston is almost two years sober now you go girl! What an inspiration.
To an extent I agree, but y'know I think that there's a huge amount of insecurity in the lifestyle. Never knowing from day to day if you have a role tomorrow, if you have a role how will it be received, and the inordinate level of pressure on the actors vs others in the media making realm. If a director or an editor or some other position screws up their aspect of a media presentation, it'll still be the actor usually that takes the blame....****ing asshole.
Great actor. just... I can't stand these famous people doing this junk. You already live the posh easy life all while having people look up to you then you do this stupid ****. Jerk.
Clearly you didn't have a settled enough life so may you find it now. RIP.
Hopefully you recognize that for some of us, even the homeless guy on the street dying of overdose is not acceptable and that is part of the reason we want the war on drugs halted and for addiction to be considered a medical issue, not a penal issue.Nameless bum dies on the street of drug overduse... "God what a parasitic loser"
Hollywood actor dies of drug overdose... "O Lord what a tragedy, he was taken before his time, what a genius, its so sad"
That reminds me, Whitney Houston is almost two years sober now you go girl! What an inspiration.
Tangibles, unlike Hoffman. Anything else?
Tim-
Glad to hear you made it. Good for you.
every time I read about a story like this the whole thing about legalizing drug use seems to be even more asinine.
What was Whitney's biggest hit? Her last one.That reminds me, Whitney Houston is almost two years sober now you go girl! What an inspiration.
Wilde's cynicism to the contrary, art (including artistic performances) are tangible. What legacy will you leave behind?
What was Whitney's biggest hit? The one that killed her.
Not to derail the thread but why?
Legalization is the only thing that makes sense when you read this
While this game you're playing might seem childish, I will opine anyway. I will leave four children, a major contribution to how IT business get's done nowadays, my writings and my hypothesis on QM, cosmology, space/time among others. A thriving business, and a well respected tree of individuals who have learned my craft, and went on to practice themselves, and in turn give that gift to their respective protégés'. These people whom have already and will continue to in the future will continue to be productive individuals in their own right.
Now, Hoffman, although I liked some of his movies, and came to appreciate his talent in no way shape or form moved me in such a way that turned into anything that I can put my finger on as to anything I've done in the real world. Has he done so for you, and many others? If so, namely what pray tell. What gift does he bring to you?
Tim-
there is the argument it can be better regulated when not driven to the black market. Most junkies will willingly accept pain pills, instead of shooting heroin.How do you figure that?
Good on you for your accomplishments, I'm only surprised because in my experience the people who are quickest to tear down the successful are those with the fewest accomplishments. However, there is of course the other scenario, which is that you are simply unimpressed by him and his craft, which I suppose cannot be helped. If you're unmoved by him, you're unmoved. All I can say is that you do have a certain ignorance regarding what he does and that very few people are able to bring conviction to their roles in acting as he did. Art may be subjective, but he was extremely talented and, like I said before, has earned more than to be cast aside like trash just because you don't approve of his weaknesses.
But you didn't answer my question. What does he bring to you that was/is tangible? When I watch a figure skater or a gymnast perform I might be in awe of their abilities, and maybe as a young man or woman I might be inspired to take a path to reach higher than them. In this sense I suppose one could make that argument that their talent was so profound that it caused you to pursue a similar path. This is a tangible quality, but isn't it also true that Hoffman's addiction and now death also has tangible qualities to some who might find it so?
Tim-
I admire his acting skill, and his ability to bring gravitas and nuance to his roles, or "stage presence." It's an ineffable quality which I can't explain because acting is not my profession, otherwise I'd probably have the terminology to explain it better. It would be easier for me if you asked me to explain why a painting was moving. All I know is that it's one of those skills that you don't know to appreciate until some untalented hack takes the stage, as it were, like 95% of the people who act on the Scyfy channel. If this sounds unconvincing to you, it's because any form of art will sound unconvincing to someone not particularly moved by it. I hate to pull the "Man, if you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know" thing on you, but it's just how it goes.
As for his addiction and death, yes, those are technically tangible things, but not ones I think anybody would agree are worth emulating.
Can you accept that he was an accomplished and talented actor, or are you genuinely puzzled by his success?
I accept that he was a talented actor, I even stated so earlier in this very thread. His success was determined by whether people were willing to part with their hard earned cash to watch him perform. A lot of people did that, including me, however, and not to be too cynical here but a lot of people, including me, parted with my hard earned cash to watch Steve-O perform in the Jackass series.
Tim-
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