Right-wingers, this shouldn't be that hard: transgender

[Craig234]

People have a body gender. Chromosones, sexual organs, etc. (with rare exceptions like hermaphrodites).

People's brains have a gender identity - where a person feels like a gender, thinks they are a gender. It's a brain function.

Most of the time, the body and gender identity are the same gender. Female body, female brain. But in a small percent of people, somehow, the brain gender does not match the body gender. Female body, brain of a male, for example.

This is a natural occurrence. It takes a bit of learning - reading the above - and your imagination to have some empathy for transgender people, imaging if your body was the other gender from what you think you are.

Some of the right things to do about transgender people are, learn the above; don't treat them like freaks or monsters or criminals; give them respect as people, which means recognizing the gender they prefer; try to be compassionate and caring and polite. Leave them be, to address things as they and medical people see fit. Don't parrot propaganda about 'gender dysphoria' and such ignorantly.

It shouldn't be hard to do the above. It's new to many people, it's surprising to people who don't understand it. but it shouldn't be too hard. And then you can stop letting right-wing propagandists manipulate you with the topic trying to bait you and push you to be hateful. You can keep your distance if you prefer.

 

[HIP56948]

Number of so-called straight people that have been either mean or irritating to myself= 47,693
Number of Transgender people who have bothered me= never

 

[Jessie C]

People have a body gender. Chromosones, sexual organs, etc. (with rare exceptions like hermaphrodites).

People's brains have a gender identity - where a person feels like a gender, thinks they are a gender. It's a brain function.

Most of the time, the body and gender identity are the same gender. Female body, female brain. But in a small percent of people, somehow, the brain gender does not match the body gender. Female body, brain of a male, for example.

This is a natural occurrence. It takes a bit of learning - reading the above - and your imagination to have some empathy for transgender people, imaging if your body was the other gender from what you think you are.

Some of the right things to do about transgender people are, learn the above; don't treat them like freaks or monsters or criminals; give them respect as people, which means recognizing the gender they prefer; try to be compassionate and caring and polite. Leave them be, to address things as they and medical people see fit. Don't parrot propaganda about 'gender dysphoria' and such ignorantly.

It shouldn't be hard to do the above. It's new to many people, it's surprising to people who don't understand it. but it shouldn't be too hard. And then you can stop letting right-wing propagandists manipulate you with the topic trying to bait you and push you to be hateful. You can keep your distance if you prefer.

In a perfect world. However, this is asking too much! These are the same people who worship an amoral train wreck and hate everyone who doesn't agree with their twisted ideology. To expect them to be understanding and accepting is not even on the table. Their way or the highway.

 

[Rawley]

People have a body gender. Chromosones, sexual organs, etc. (with rare exceptions like hermaphrodites).

People's brains have a gender identity - where a person feels like a gender, thinks they are a gender. It's a brain function.

Most of the time, the body and gender identity are the same gender. Female body, female brain. But in a small percent of people, somehow, the brain gender does not match the body gender. Female body, brain of a male, for example.

This is a natural occurrence. It takes a bit of learning - reading the above - and your imagination to have some empathy for transgender people, imaging if your body was the other gender from what you think you are.

Some of the right things to do about transgender people are, learn the above; don't treat them like freaks or monsters or criminals; give them respect as people, which means recognizing the gender they prefer; try to be compassionate and caring and polite. Leave them be, to address things as they and medical people see fit. Don't parrot propaganda about 'gender dysphoria' and such ignorantly.

It shouldn't be hard to do the above. It's new to many people, it's surprising to people who don't understand it. but it shouldn't be too hard. And then you can stop letting right-wing propagandists manipulate you with the topic trying to bait you and push you to be hateful. You can keep your distance if you prefer.

If they let us be, we'd let them be.

 

[Lisa]

If they let us be, we'd let them be.

How exactly is less than 1% of the population harassing you? Is their fight for equal rights offensve to you because they are supposed to stay in the closet?

 

[mrjurrs]

How exactly is less than 1% of the population harassing you? Is their fight for equal rights offensve to you because they are supposed to stay in the closet?

And what rights are they trying to take from them? None.

 

[Jessie C]

If they let us be, we'd let them be.

When was the last time you were harassed or confronted by "one of them"? I'll wait.

 

[Questerr]

People have a body gender. Chromosones, sexual organs, etc. (with rare exceptions like hermaphrodites).

People's brains have a gender identity - where a person feels like a gender, thinks they are a gender. It's a brain function.

Most of the time, the body and gender identity are the same gender. Female body, female brain. But in a small percent of people, somehow, the brain gender does not match the body gender. Female body, brain of a male, for example.

This is a natural occurrence. It takes a bit of learning - reading the above - and your imagination to have some empathy for transgender people, imaging if your body was the other gender from what you think you are.

Some of the right things to do about transgender people are, learn the above; don't treat them like freaks or monsters or criminals; give them respect as people, which means recognizing the gender they prefer; try to be compassionate and caring and polite. Leave them be, to address things as they and medical people see fit. Don't parrot propaganda about 'gender dysphoria' and such ignorantly.

It shouldn't be hard to do the above. It's new to many people, it's surprising to people who don't understand it. but it shouldn't be too hard. And then you can stop letting right-wing propagandists manipulate you with the topic trying to bait you and push you to be hateful. You can keep your distance if you prefer.

“Body gender” is not a thing. Biological sex is. Sex and gender are not the same thing.

 

[Rawley]

When was the last time you were harassed or confronted by "one of them"? I'll wait.

When a boy wanted to take our daughters' places on the girls swim team, the girl's track team, the girl's volleyball team.

 

[Questerr]

When a boy wanted to take our daughters' places on the girls swim team, the girl's track team, the girl's volleyball team.

Why is it conservatives only give a flying **** about women’s sports, which normally they deserve nothing but derision for at the best of times, when it involves transpeople?

 

[samiam5211]

When a boy wanted to take our daughters' places on the girls swim team, the girl's track team, the girl's volleyball team.

When did that happen?

What was the outcome?

 

[lwf]

When a boy wanted to take our daughters' places on the girls swim team, the girl's track team, the girl's volleyball team.

Then take it up with the school, or the coach, or the league. Your daughter is not entitled to a spot on the girl's volleyball team by the government.

 

[Rawley]

How exactly is less than 1% of the population harassing you? Is their fight for equal rights offensve to you because they are supposed to stay in the closet?

They came after me with sticks and clubs. Jeeze, is it really impossible for you to have a rational discussion over this subject without going all hyperbolic

 

[Rawley]

When did that happen?

What was the outcome?

OMG crawl out from under the rock.

 

[samiam5211]

OMG crawl out from under the rock.

So no trans person tried to get on the sports team that your daughter was part of?

 

[Rawley]

Why is it conservatives only give a flying **** about women’s sports, which normally they deserve nothing but derision for at the best of times, when it involves transpeople?

Have a blessed life. I can't stomach the hate you spew in your posts anymore.

 

[Questerr]

Have a blessed life. I can't stomach the hate you spew in your posts anymore.

I’m sorry facts hurt your feelings but conservatives love to give women’s/girl’s sports less funding than their men’s/boy’s counterparts, they mock women athletes, etc. the only time the Right suddenly are up in arms to protect women’s sports is when trans people are involved.

 

[Rawley]

So no trans person tried to get on the sprts team that your daughter was part of?

Again, you need to find some different news sources if you are unaware this is happening

If you don't want to address Craig's premise, post in a different thread.

 

[samiam5211]

Again, you need to find some different news sources if you are unaware this is happening

If you don't want to address Craig's premise, post in a different thread.

It didn't happen specifically to you though right?

Your other post was misleading, it suggested that your daughter lost a spot on a team to a trans person.

 

[Jessie C]

When a boy wanted to take our daughters' places on the girls swim team, the girl's track team, the girl's volleyball team.

So you were never personally affronted; you have a problem with the system. Got it. I guess that's justification to treat all LBGTQ people badly, right? No need to respond, already know the answer. The only "hate" I see being spewed on this thread comes from you.

 

[Fishking]

People have a body gender. Chromosones, sexual organs, etc. (with rare exceptions like hermaphrodites).

No, that's sex, so you're already wrong in your very first sentence.

People's brains have a gender identity - where a person feels like a gender, thinks they are a gender. It's a brain function.

I reject the idea that gender means anything different than sex, as it's a made up definition that activists created in the 60's.

 

[Lisa]

They came after me with sticks and clubs. Jeeze, is it really impossible for you to have a rational discussion over this subject without going all hyperbolic

You were attacked by transgender people with sticks and clubs. Yea, right.

 

[Rawley]

So you were never personally affronted; you have a problem with the system. Got it. I guess that's justification to treat all LBGTQ people badly, right? No need to respond, already know the answer. The only "hate" I see being spewed on this thread comes from you.

Another one that is incapable of a rational discussion.

Have a blessed life.

 

[lwf]

No, that's sex, so you're already wrong in your very first sentence.

I reject the idea that gender means anything different than sex, as it's a made up definition that activists created in the 60's.

It's "made up" in the sense that men's and women's restrooms and men's and women's clothes are "made up." It is a social distinction that we as a society have chosen to make. You are welcome to refuse to conform to the rest of society and make the distinction between sex and gender, but the distinction nonetheless objectively exists as a social construct.

 

[Rawley]

You were attacked by transgender people with sticks and clubs. Yea, right.

You make up shit, I make up shit. Seems like the way you want this discussion to go.