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Respect for Men


Actually Josie, I've known at least a few guys who have the "yes dear" attitude towards relationships, where they take insults and agree whether they think something's right or not simply to keep the peace. I guess that's the price they believe they have to pay for the hopes of some sort of steady romance/sex, which often comes after cleaning up the yard, getting a promotion, running errands for the wife, etc...basically a treat for doing something good. And if he doesn't do something good but does the opposite, he's in the dog house. Respectable people don't go to the dog house since it's realized that the mistakes they do make are obviously unintentional and if possible will be fixed soon.

I'm sure that romance between two people who have great respect for one another is multiple times better because there are passionate emotions involved that more than likely wouldn't be in the "yes dear" relationship. Respectability is often hard work that entails consistent tactful honesty, some sort of courage, a strong desire to do well by your significant other/family, etc...basically many of the things that make certain people more admirable than others.
 
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That is a hideously bad strawman of why some people are into consensual exchanges of power.
 
Phys251 said:
That is a hideously bad strawman of why some people are into consensual exchanges of power.
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Yep...the club was Houston PEP, and hideous is a very accurate description.

It is amazing how some can take playful spanking and light bondage in the bedroom to those extremes.

They also like to refer it as a "lifestyle".

Not me.
 
RetiredNSmilin said:
Yep...the club was Houston PEP, and hideous is a very accurate description.

It is amazing how some can take playful spanking and light bondage in the bedroom to those extremes.

They also like to refer it as a "lifestyle".

Not me.
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:shock:

This dont mean we cant be friends does it?

I sorta do some of that.

I'm a good guy.

PROMISE!

:lasucks:
 
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RetiredNSmilin said:
Much more people like that stuff than will admit to it.
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Ya, but I am Zen, we let all our junk out to play, confinement of our natures is too exhausting to bother.

AND NO FUN!

I cop to it.
 

You talk like a woman who doesn't have any criteria
 

I think we need to understand some concepts, for the purposes of perception.

socialism requires social morals for free and capitalism will do with capital morals for price.

under True forms of Socialism, nice guys should never, "finish last".

under True forms of Capitalism, nice capitalists should never, "finish last", especially with a generous, petty cash fund for that purpose.
 


Spot on, bullseye, and God bless you for saying it.


There is little a real man craves more than the respect of his nearest and dearest people.


One of the surest ways to destroy a man is for his wife to treat him with contempt. He will soon seek some sort of affirmation of his worth else where.


Had a gf once who soon revealed a tendency to look down on men, as with the eye-rolling "oh you're such a man!" said with sarcastic disdain.... yet she wanted to get married, and I had to wonder why given her attitude... maybe she wanted someone to abuse, lol. She didn't get a ring from me, at any rate, and I bailed out soon after recognizing her views.
 
another contrarian perspective

a substantial portion of guys do not deserve your respect
they ARE idiots
and they are as immature as children


they tend to be their own worst enemy
but they also attract women who enjoy the calamity of being around them


don't believe me
read some more facebook posts



and unfortunately, these characters who are underserving of respect are not limited to the male gender
 

I've often thought of taking the scripts from those sitcoms and changing them only in one way -- switching the husband and wife roles, but otherwise leaving every word and nuance of it intact. Then I'd put it on Funny or Die or some similar site, and watch the comments roll in. I doubt they'd be very kind.

Maybe I'll get around to doing that.
 
I'm not sure about including All in the Family in the list.... pretty much EVERYONE on the show was portrayed as one sort of blithering idiot or another.


Archie - right wing bigot so full of prejudgment he couldn't see anything but his own biases
Edith - amiable ditz but ignorant as dirt
Gloria - an overlay of 60s leftism but just under the surface was a bratty ditz not much smarter than her mom
Meathead - left wing idiot, Archie's antithesis and just as blind but in the other direction.
 
I'd note that the new Kevin James show is exactly like the old Kevin James show.
 
While I agree with your point, the men in those shows are complete idiots and do act like children. There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
 
some men respect honesty from women.

why are women afraid to simply be honest, and claim you want to practice with us, just for fun.
 
MrPeanut said:
While I agree with your point, the men in those shows are complete idiots and do act like children. There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
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That IS her point.
 
MrPeanut said:
That's weird considering she seems to be objecting to how they are treated in those shows not how they act.
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She's objecting to the depiction of men in sitcoms and how they're treated by the women in them.

But if I'm wrong, she's perfectly free to clarify.
 
Harshaw said:
She's objecting to the depiction of men in sitcoms and how they're treated by the women in them.

But if I'm wrong, she's perfectly free to clarify.
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If that's the point than I agree completely. I don't see any mention of how the men themselves are depicted though.
 
The whole men being idiots on TV thing has been around forever and by all accounts is minor to some of the issues popping up these days on TV when it comes to men.
 
danielpalos said:
some men respect honesty from women.

why are women afraid to simply be honest, and claim you want to practice with us, just for fun.
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I have no desire to "practice" with you. Honestly.
 
Harshaw said:
She's objecting to the depiction of men in sitcoms and how they're treated by the women in them.

But if I'm wrong, she's perfectly free to clarify.
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You're correct, naturally.
 
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