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Republicrats Are Certainly Not Fit To 'Lead The World'... ugh

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Is America Fit To ‘Lead’ the World?
by Doug Bandow Posted on October 05, 2020

America’s most fervid cheerleaders sometimes make the most devastating criticisms of the U.S. Although usually inadvertently.
For instance, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo recently took to twitter to declare that "The Islamic Republic of Iran is not a normal state." He listed several of Tehran’s illicit activities, including "Normal states do not attack embassies and military installations in peacetime."

True. But by that standard America is anything but ordinary. After all, the US bombs numerous countries, launches drones at multiple targets in other states, routinely invades and occupies other lands, issues threats of war almost daily, stations troops around the world and threatens states with sanctions if they request Washington to remove those forces, backs allied nations that actively oppress their peoples and slaughter neighboring populations, and sanctions scores of nations and thousands of people and organizations that resist Washington’s dictates. Being an ally is no defense: US policymakers are determined to crush any government which does not submit to American direction with alacrity.

It is hard for the "America is perfect" crowd to admit that the US in fact is the most militaristic and aggressive nation on the planet. No "normal" there! American exceptionalism means something very different to Americans who enjoy wandering the globe glorying in their nation’s brutal power and dubious influence and foreigners who suffer every day as a result of Washington’s exceptional demands and pressures...

"American exceptionalism" has become the preferred excuse for implementing the worst sort of militaristic and imperialistic policies. Democrats no less than Republicans think nothing of causing murder and mayhem around the globe in the name of some ill-defined "vital national interest."

The chief victims of this approach are foreign peoples wantonly killed and displaced, their nations wrecked and futures squandered. However, Americans lose too. Some costs – human, financial, reputational – are obvious. Others run much deeper. Like sacrificing America’s soul as a democratic republic. Washington now is an imperial city, which increasingly treats Americans like it treats foreigners, as dependents and supplicants rather than free men and women..
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Our own current leadership has bowed-out of the long-time US position as leader of the "free world". Nor are we currently fit to lead as proven by Trump's pissing on our long-time allies and hugging our enemies. (Nor is current leadership fit to lead the US, for that matter, as proved by mismanagement of the COVID pandemic by our self-described "wartime" leader). It leaves a void that China and Russia are all to willing to take advantage of however they can which will make it all that more difficult for the US and the free world to regain position once the Public Health Threat-in-Chief is dragged kicking and screaming out of office after losing the upcoming election. Furthermore, as proven by historical experience, Republican are not fit to lead anything.
 
With the "right" leading? Yes.
With the "left" leading? Hell no.
 
With the "right" leading? Yes.
With the "left" leading? Hell no.

...only a brain-laundered republicrat would quibble over the puny differences in foreign polic(e)y between the typical 'right wing republican' and the typical 'left wing democrat'... word...
 
Your commentary is as idiotic as it is wrong.
 
Your commentary is as idiotic as it is wrong.

...PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EXAMINE THE HISTORY OF CONGRESSIONAL VOTING WITH REGARDS TO WARMAKING, MILITARY BUDGET$, ETC....then maybe you will cease with your naive republican/crat fluffery...
 
...PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EXAMINE THE HISTORY OF CONGRESSIONAL VOTING WITH REGARDS TO WARMAKING, MILITARY BUDGET$, ETC....then maybe you will cease with your naive republican/crat fluffery...
More irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you. Figures.
 
Your projection is your own issue and no one else's.
 
Your projection is your own issue and no one else's.

...ummm... it's CERTAINLY the issue of the hundreds of thousands of people your stinking republicrat fools have murdered, maimed, made homeless, etc., around the planet, ostrich...
 
More irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you. Figures.

...lol!... GET REAL... the voting records don't lie... [but you republicrats sure do lie to yourselves]...
 
...lol!... GET REAL... the voting records don't lie... [but you republicrats sure do lie to yourselves]...
Just more irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you. Figures.
 
Just more irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you. Figures.

...lol.. so the actual voting records of your stinking republicrat bankster puppets are irrelevant... [republicrats put the extra 'ooooooooooooo' in stooooooooooooopid]
 
...lol.. so the actual voting records of your stinking republicrat bankster puppets are irrelevant... [republicrats put the extra 'ooooooooooooo' in stooooooooooooopid]
Just more irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you. Figures.
 
...ummm... it's CERTAINLY the issue of the hundreds of thousands of people your stinking republicrat fools have murdered, maimed, made homeless, etc., around the planet, ostrich...
well i am not sure how to argue this nonsense but i will try.

1. No one has murdered anyone. So I guess right there you are wrong.
2. Most of the destruction and homelessness is not the result of the US.
3. the last part doesn't even make any sense but is typical of most extremist argument lines.

given your responses to other people there is no reason to take anything you say seriously.
the extremist website that you posted is proof enough of that.
 
...you republicrat warmonger cheerleaders have anything except snark and republican-radio-level rhetoric?


Sure, there have been differences between the Republicans and the Democrats in regards to foreign policy, but those have been generally tactical differences. For instance, the Reagan administration wanted to aggressively intervene in Central American in the 1980s, primarily by sending US troops to squash the revolutionary movements in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala. For the Democrats, which controlled the Congress at that time, they supported the larger strategy of not wanting revolution to spread, they just disagreed on the tactics. Democrats in Congress during the Reagan years supported military aid to El Salvador and Guatemala, they supported an economic blockade of Nicaragua and they supported turning Honduras into a US military outpost.

If we think about who sits in the White House and what that means for US foreign policy and US intervention, again, it is a bipartisan project. Here is a listing of US Presidents since Lyndon Johnson, showing where the US intervened directly, covertly, offered training and provided military funding to dictatorships:

Lyndon Johnson D (1963 – 1969) Vietnam, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Indonesia, Guatemala, Israel, Egypt, Mexico

Richard Nixon R (1969 – 1974) Vietnam, Cuba, Lao, Cambodia, Chile, Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Haiti

Gerald Ford R (1974 – 76) Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia, Indonesia, East Timor, Angola, Egypt, Argentina

Jimmy Carter D (1976 – 1980) Cuba, Angola, East Timor, Iran, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Afghanistan, Vietnam

Ronald Reagan R (1980 – 1988) Vietnam, Cuba, Iran, Nicaragua, Angola, El Salvador, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Grenada, Libya, Honduras, Guatemala, South Africa

George Bush R (1988 – 1992) Cuba, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola, Iran, Afghanistan, Panama, Iraq, Somalia, Haiti

Bill Clinton D (1992 – 2000) Cuba, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, Sudan, Yugoslavia, Indonesia

George W Bush R (2000 – 2008) Cuba, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq Philippines, Venezuela, Colombia, Haiti, Pakistan

Barack Obama D (2009 – 2016) Cuba, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan, Colombia, Honduras, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen

Donald Trump R (2016 – ) Cuba, Syria, Yemen, Venezuela, Honduras, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran
 
Your commentary is as idiotic as it is wrong.
Well it's not wrong, so it must be brilliant.

There's little difference between the two, and neither side is particularly competent at foreign affairs. It typically comes down to blowing something up or invading some country. All D's and R's have done this. It helps feed the military machine and fund the Friends of Government.
 
Sad that's your only response to the truth, just deny it all. If we stop testing cases will go down. That's the kind of truth the right believes. Lol
You do need to keep in mind the 3-D's of the Trumpeteer: Deflection, Deception, Denial.
 
well I would like to hear , in the OP's opinion or anyone of those who believe this, who SHOULD be the world leader then?

see its not a question of IF there will be a World Leader, there will be one... so who should it be that has the capability to DO so, and is a better choice then the US?
 
Sad that's your only response to the truth, just deny it all. If we stop testing cases will go down. That's the kind of truth the right believes. Lol
The truth? iLOL Ha, ha, ha!
Just more irrelevant and idiotic nonsense by you.
 
well I would like to hear , in the OP's opinion or anyone of those who believe this, who SHOULD be the world leader then?

...true leaders lead by example...not the violent terrorism, fraud, etc. of ?your stinking bankster puppet$...

...and i would like to hear in hypothetical's opinion or anyone of those who believe in stinking republicrat foreign interventionism, who SHOULD be the world's FOLLOWERS then?...

[...more smedley butler...MUCH less GD fool republicrat bank$ter puppetry.....ugh...]

"I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket."
 
Hello
We don't need the Republicans to
create any more conspiracy theories,

or inject any more fear.

 
"Republicrats" -> stop reading.
 
"Republicrats" -> stop reading.

...'republicrats' is simply a contraction of 'republicans and democrats'... it saves time and conveys the truth that there really is no important difference between the stinking republicrats when it comes to 'foreign policy'... most/all of them favor/support foreign interventionism, arms proliferation, spying, military bases around the planet, HUGE military budgets, etc. ad nauseam...

...apparently the truth hurts... get real... get knowledge...


"...Biden also supported warrantless wiretapping, voting for the Patriot Act while a senator in 2001, voting repeatedly for its subsequent reauthorizations and then opposing weakening the measure while he was vice president in the Obama administration.

There are other reasons that Negroponte and a bevy of Republican former intelligence and foreign policy big-shots have moved to Biden.

The former VP opposes a troop drawdown in Europe, saying that such a move would embolden the Russians, for example. He supports a more engaged military policy against China in the South China Sea. He supports an extension of President Barack Obama’s policy of maintaining military bases in more than 100 countries, including Forward Operating Bases across Africa.

Literally the last thing I would do is to urge anybody to vote for Donald Trump. The president has been a disaster in every sense of the word and in both foreign and domestic policy. The country can’t take four more years of a Trump presidency. But Biden is no panacea. He’s a center-right placeholder. Negroponte confirmed that.

If you think things will change in foreign policy under a President Biden, think again. It’ll be the same old expansionist, militarist policy that we had under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. So go into the voting booth with your eyes open.

John Kiriakou is a former CIA counterterrorism officer and a former senior investigator with the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. John became the sixth whistleblower indicted by the Obama administration under the Espionage Act—a law designed to punish spies. He served 23 months in prison as a result of his attempts to oppose the Bush administration’s torture program.
 
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