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Casting themselves as victims of religious oppression, conservative Christians and the Republicans are using their convoluted interpretations of the U.S. Constitution and their Bible as justification to pass laws permitting the Christian majority in this nation to discriminate against anyone who fails to practice Christianity in their rigid form.
The article at the following link explains just how un-American these, and other Republican sponsored laws have become. Sadly, the narrow minds of these “righteous” people blind them to this fact.
Republicans Turn God Upside Down with Their Twisted Version of Religious Liberty
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Jefferson himself authored a state law based on religious morals that would castrate males found guilty of the crime of homosexuality.
Nobody's perfect.
BTW, source?
Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.
Nobody's perfect.
BTW, source?
My point wasnt ad hominem. I was showing that the founders were perfectly fine with religious based laws at the state and local level while opposing them at the federal level.
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Casting themselves as victims of religious oppression, conservative Christians and the Republicans are using their convoluted interpretations of the U.S. Constitution and their Bible as justification to pass laws permitting the Christian majority in this nation to discriminate against anyone who fails to practice Christianity in their rigid form.
The article at the following link explains just how un-American these, and other Republican sponsored laws have become. Sadly, the narrow minds of these “righteous” people blind them to this fact.
Republicans Turn God Upside Down with Their Twisted Version of Religious Liberty
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From the article
"Thomas Jefferson. He was adamant about maintaining a strong separation between church and state"
However what the left out is that Thomas Jefferson only meant separation from the federal govt. Jefferson himself authored a state law based on religious morals that would castrate males found guilty of the crime of homosexuality.
Yeah...um, no.
Unless you can produce a quote where the word "homosexual" was actually used you are most likely incorrect.
Sodomy, in "the good old days", was a reference to any kind of sex that was "non-reproductive".
Oral sex between a male and a female for example was sodomy.
Sodomy in Jefferson's day was not defined in the same manner as many use it today.
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Casting themselves as victims of religious oppression, conservative Christians and the Republicans are using their convoluted interpretations of the U.S. Constitution and their Bible as justification to pass laws permitting the Christian majority in this nation to discriminate against anyone who fails to practice Christianity in their rigid form.
The article at the following link explains just how un-American these, and other Republican sponsored laws have become. Sadly, the narrow minds of these “righteous” people blind them to this fact.
Republicans Turn God Upside Down with Their Twisted Version of Religious Liberty
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From the article
"Thomas Jefferson. He was adamant about maintaining a strong separation between church and state"
However what the left out is that Thomas Jefferson only meant separation from the federal govt. Jefferson himself authored a state law based on religious morals that would castrate males found guilty of the crime of homosexuality.
The article makes a great point right here, and it's one which so many who seek to push their Christian beliefs onto others need to remember:No, the article is wrong.
No one is keeping us from being practicing Christians. No one is telling us we HAVE to take birth control or we have to sleep with members of the same sex or that we cannot say Merry Christmas or that we have to abort our unborn. No one is saying that. What people are saying is that we have to allow others the same freedom to live the way they wish, just as we Christians want to live the way we wish. If your religious beliefs have no problem with taking birth control, then no one should be able to stop you. If your conscience dictates you understand that not everyone celebrates Christmas, then you should feel free to say Happy Holidays. If you have no problem with homosexuality, then be a homosexual, if that's who you are.And Christians are hardly under attack here. No one is taking away their rights. No one is seeking to force them to be gay themselves, or to force birth control upon them. No. They are perfectly free to hold their own religious beliefs and live their lives accordingly.
For religious liberty to work, of course, it must be a two-way street and apply to everyone equally. If Christians are permitted to freely hold their beliefs, then Christians must reciprocate and allow non-Christians to freely hold their own beliefs.
If someone believes that being gay is fine under their own religion, then let them hold these beliefs. If someone else believes that birth control is fine under their own religion, let them hold these beliefs as well. There is no justification for discriminating against people who happen to hold differing beliefs by not serving them as customers.
Based on religious morals? Homosexuality was a dirty taboo in those days and even non-religious people had strong biases against them. If you want to claim that Jefferson make this law based on religious morals then you need to show where the bible calls out castration for homosexuality and where Jefferson referenced god or his religion for the basis of the law. You can't just claim it was religion.
All attempts to delude the people, or to abuse their understanding by exercise of the pretended arts of witchcraft, conjuration, inchantment, or sorcery or by pretended prophecies, shall be punished by ducking and whipping at the discretion of a jury, not exceeding 15. stripes.
The article makes a great point right here, and it's one which so many who seek to push their Christian beliefs onto others
Gay marriage bans, Planned Parenthood funding withdrawals, denying contraception coverage, the state of Tennessee legislature passing legislation making the Bible the official state book, etc. In fact, John Kasich, the last man to stand up to Donald Trump, wanted to create a federal agency to push Christianity to other parts of the world, and the other candidate, Ted Cruz, explicitly said he puts his God before his country. And that's before we even get into the whole "religious freedom" laws, which are thinly veiled attempts to allow discrimination based on religion. And all of that is just within the last couple of years, if I go back a couple of decades I would have SO much material to post.How exactly are Christians pushing their beliefs onto others?
I didn't say anything about a cake. :shrug:By refusing to bake a cake? Really?
No. Gay people aren't saying Christians have to be gay or abide by homosexual doctrine (which doesn't even exist). So, no, gay people are not forcing their beliefs on anyone else, gay people are just wanting to be seen as equal citizens.Are gays not forcing their beliefs on Christians by forcing them to do things that they don't want to do
It usually does to those who mistake equality under the law with persecution.The gay perspective seems pretty twisted to me.
Yes, I'm well aware many Christians have a severe persecution complex. Much like any other mental health deficiency, all us who spend time in reality can do is try to assure you no one is coming for your rights, we just want you to understand your rights don't get to trample on the rights of others."Only my rights are to be respected, only my concerns are to be addressed. Christian rights and concerns don't count," is what I'm hearing here.
Yes, those are silly ideas. Don't see anything about religion though.
Why exactly would you need to ban which craft and prophecys if not for religious reasons
Gay marriage bans, Planned Parenthood funding withdrawals, denying contraception coverage, the state of Tennessee legislature passing legislation making the Bible the official state book, etc. In fact, John Kasich, the last man to stand up to Donald Trump, wanted to create a federal agency to push Christianity to other parts of the world, and the other candidate, Ted Cruz, explicitly said he puts his God before his country. And that's before we even get into the whole "religious freedom" laws, which are thinly veiled attempts to allow discrimination based on religion. And all of that is just within the last couple of years, if I go back a couple of decades I would have SO much material to post.
I didn't say anything about a cake. :shrug:
Hello, strawman, good to see you again.
No. Gay people aren't saying Christians have to be ... abide by homosexual doctrine.
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Casting themselves as victims of religious oppression, conservative Christians and the Republicans are using their convoluted interpretations of the U.S. Constitution and their Bible as justification to pass laws permitting the Christian majority in this nation to discriminate against anyone who fails to practice Christianity in their rigid form.
The article at the following link explains just how un-American these, and other Republican sponsored laws have become. Sadly, the narrow minds of these “righteous” people blind them to this fact.
Republicans Turn God Upside Down with Their Twisted Version of Religious Liberty
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I know, at least as far as Jefferson goes.
That being said, it's our job to be better.
Separation of church and state must run from top to bottom, federal to local.
The article makes a great point right here, and it's one which so many who seek to push their Christian beliefs onto others need to remember:
No one is keeping us from being practicing Christians. No one is telling us we HAVE to take birth control or we have to sleep with members of the same sex or that we cannot say Merry Christmas or that we have to abort our unborn. No one is saying that. What people are saying is that we have to allow others the same freedom to live the way they wish, just as we Christians want to live the way we wish. If your religious beliefs have no problem with taking birth control, then no one should be able to stop you. If your conscience dictates you understand that not everyone celebrates Christmas, then you should feel free to say Happy Holidays. If you have no problem with homosexuality, then be a homosexual, if that's who you are.
Christians are getting offended that they are no longer allowed to dictate to others how they should live and that makes them feel persecuted. And that's wrong. Granting everyone equal opportunity to operate under their faith/lack of faith is most definitely what it means to have freedom of religion. And the article is not wrong about that.
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