Republicans’ shutdown blame game is fracturing

[Greenbeard]

GOP is having trouble staying on the same page as to why their push for massive premium hikes and other health cuts that threaten local hospitals (not to mention coverage for millions of Americans) are worth shutting down the government.

The Senate wants to shift the conversation to boring procedural stuff, the House GOP wants to rail against immigrants, and Trump has pivoted to his favorite topic, trans people. Meanwhile, we’re just over four weeks out from the start of open enrollment and millions of Americans seeing massive premium increases thanks to the GOP’s intransigence. Time is not on their side.

Republicans’ shutdown blame game is fracturing

The diverging messages from GOP leaders comes after Trump reversed his decision to hold a White House meeting with top Democratic leaders — an about-face that came after Johnson and Thune privately warned him that it would undercut the party’s negotiating position.

Taken together, the visible cracks in the GOP front are raising internal concerns as party leaders face off against Democrats who are largely united behind a plan to focus on health care — particularly an extension of expiring insurance subsidies.

But some Hill Republicans were confused and caught off-guard by Trump’s focus on transgender politics. It also served to create headaches for a handful of the most vulnerable House Republicans, who are pushing for a one-year clean extension of the insurance subsidies. They include Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-Va.), a co-author of the proposal who has strong backing from House GOP leaders.

The White House further scrambled the GOP strategy late Wednesday when it circulated a draft memo instructing agencies to create plans for mass firings of federal workers if Democrats don’t relent and a shutdown occurs. That alarmed some Hill Republicans who saw it as an unnecessary provocation that, in the words of one, “would give Democrats an excuse to vote against” the GOP-led stopgap — and muddy their message that it was Democrats, not Republicans, who were unreasonable hostage-takers.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Let's see. Checks notes. R's own the House, Senate. WH....SCOTUS.
Yeah, that's right Maga let Rome ****ing burn.

 

[Wry Catcher]

If the Republican Party goes on to the chumps in this election, soon the Boss of Mafia will destory the democracy.

 

[Peacenik]

Just what they need. An excuse to fire federal workers. Because that worked out so well for them before.

And how is it going trying to blame the shut down on Democrats when Republicans have the majority in both houses?

That's a tough sell.

How does that go?

"We can't agree with ourselves, so it's Democrat's fault."

Good luck with that one.

We've got some dumb voters out there, but they ain't that dumb.

So go right ahead. Shut down the government. Fire a bunch of essential people. Contribute to more unemployment. Screw up more government functions. Make more people miss them.

All you're doing is making people appreciate government more. And we know you want people to hate government.

Do tell us when you've made America great again. Oh, and we wonder. When you figure America is great, whenever that time comes, does that mean you're finally happy with our government, too? Or are you always going to hate government no matter who is in charge of it.

I have a hard time seeing Republicans give up on their beloved government hatred. It's a peer pressure thing, you know? It makes them feel superior to complain about government. No way they actually want a functional government. What would they complain about if that ever happened?

 

[Metric Mouse]

If a package passes the house, but Democrats in the senate block it, I can see why they would take the blame.

 

[Phys251]

If a package passes the house, but Democrats in the senate block it, I can see why they would take the blame.

A CR only requires a simple majority in the Senate. The Repubs are trying to extend that with absurd changes to the budget, because they're Repubs.

 

[Wry Catcher]

If a package passes the house, but Democrats in the senate block it, I can see why they would take the blame.

Yep. And if that is then 2028 and those GOP Senators need lose their jobs.

 

[Metric Mouse]

A CR only requires a simple majority in the Senate. The Repubs are trying to extend that with absurd changes to the budget, because they're Repubs.

Gotta overcome the filibuster to bring it to a vote. Need 60 votes for that.

Democrats could block the Senate from even voting on it...

Hopefully they won't.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Yep. And if that is then 2028 and those GOP Senators need lose their jobs.

Here's hoping.

 

[Phys251]

Gotta overcome the filibuster to bring it to a vote. Need 60 votes for that.

Democrats could block the Senate from even voting on it...

Hopefully they won't.

If the Repubs back down on their absurd changes and go for a CR, then they just need a majority vote.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Don't let this part be lost on all of you sane and decent people.

 

[BabaVoss]

If a package passes the house, but Democrats in the senate block it, I can see why they would take the blame.

Regardless of what’s in it?

 

[BitterPill]

Don't let this part be lost on all of you sane and decent people.

MAGA is glad our government is shutting down, but that doesn't stop us from blaming Biden, and if you think that doesn't make sense, I'm just glad no one is mentioning the 'E' word anymore.

MAGA.

 

[BabaVoss]

“We have all the power. We are better and smarter than the evil democrats. Even though we have the White House, Congress, and SCOTUS, and control all the levers of power, it’s their fault if the government we control shuts down.”

That’s gonna be a tough sell, even for our orange criminal Liar in Chief.

 

[Wry Catcher]

If a package passes the house, but Democrats in the senate block it, I can see why they would take the blame.

The Speaker in the House blocks everything that the Boss tells Mike Johnson: And,The Texan Governor knows that trump is going down; thus, he puts five more members in the House of Rep. to keep from the Democrats to put forth for another Impeachment - a third one.

The Republican's don't want Democrats to do the same.

So, the GOP sees on TV to American's say NO to vote: These are liars and cheaters; these do not have any facts to say NO!

 

[Metric Mouse]

The Speaker in the House blocks everything that the Boss tells Mike Johnson: And,The Texan Governor knows that trump is going down; thus, he puts five more members in the House of Rep. to keep from the Democrats to put forth for another Impeachment - a third one.

The Republican's don't want Democrats to do the same.

So, the GOP sees on TV to American's say NO to vote: These are liars and cheaters; these do not have any facts to say NO!

Ok.

But if the House passes a funding bill, and the Senate doesn't only because Democrats refuse to vote for it... and all Republicans do... the shutdown kinda falls on the party that wouldn't compromise...

 

[Metric Mouse]

Regardless of what’s in it?

The House passed a "clean" funding bill that continued bi partisan funding levels.

If Democrats in the senate reject it, they own the shutdown.

Maybe the cruelty is the point.

 

[BabaVoss]

The House passed a "clean" funding bill that continued bi partisan funding levels.

If Democrats in the senate reject it, they own the shutdown.

Maybe the cruelty is the point.

Nope. That wont sell.
It will be a Trump shutdown.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Nope. That wont sell.
It will be a Trump shutdown.

Didn't all Republicans and Trump support a continuing resolution that was clean and has already passed the House...

And all Republicans would vote for it...

But not Democrats. They think the shutdown is good. For... reasons?

 

[BirdinHand]

Gotta overcome the filibuster to bring it to a vote. Need 60 votes for that.

Democrats could block the Senate from even voting on it...

All they need is a simple majority.

Booker can only talk for so long.

This is 100% of the GOP.

 

[BabaVoss]

Didn't all Republicans and Trump support a continuing resolution that was clean and has already passed the House...

And all Republicans would vote for it...

But not Democrats. They think the shutdown is good. For... reasons?

A temp solution will not work.
No one should want a shutdown.
Compromise is needed.
Trump's Republicans are the party in power.
If they are unwilling to compromise, it will be a Trump Shutdown.

.

 

[Metric Mouse]

All they need is a simple majority.

Booker can only talk for so long.

This is 100% of the GOP.

Not in the Senate.

Need a 2/3rds majority to pass.

Please tell us you don't know how legislation works, without telling us.

But the clean funding bill is not gonna happen when Democrats vote to shut it down.

That's why the house passed a clean funding bill... but the Senate hasn't, even though all Republicans voted for it.

 

[Metric Mouse]

A temp solution will not work.
No one should want a shutdown.
Compromise is needed.
Trump's Republicans are the party in power.
If they are unwilling to compromise, it will be a Trump Shutdown.

.

A temp solution is better than a shutdown.

The continuing resolution doesn't change anything, it keeps things just the way they are, agreed to by all parties, for another few months.

Republicans passed it.

Democrats blocked it. They own this shutdown.