Republican vaccine deniers

[Lafayette]

From The Guardian: Fauci: Republican vaccine deniers are hurting efforts to lift Covid restrictions

Excerpt:

'On the one hand they want to be relieved of the restrictions. On the other hand, they don’t want to get vaccinated’

Republicans who refuse the Covid-19 vaccination are actively “working against” efforts to lift the very coronavirus restrictions they insist are an infringement of their civil liberties, Dr Anthony Fauci, the US government’s leading infectious disease expert, said on Sunday.

Fauci’s comments came as the government announced that half of all adults in the US had received at least one Covid-19 shot, marking another milestone in the nation’s largest-ever vaccination campaign. Almost 130 million people 18 or older have received at least one dose of a vaccine, or 50.4% of the total adult population, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported. Almost 84 million adults, or about 32.5% of the population, have been fully vaccinated.

But Fauci, who was involved in a fiery exchange over the issue with the Republican congressman Jim Jordan on Thursday, told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday he was frustrated by recent studies showing that up to 45% of Republicans would not take the vaccine.

For the Replicants - dumb is as dumb-does ...

 

[Captain Adverse]

From The Guardian: Fauci: Republican vaccine deniers are hurting efforts to lift Covid restrictions

Excerpt:


For the Replicants - dumb is as dumb-does ...

Hmmm,

I'm not a Republican, nor a Democrat. I have no Party affiliation.

I also haven't had a flu shot since I left the Army in 1989.

I've also never caught a cold or the flu since I was 9 years old.

I've been exposed to both many times. I've also been exposed to Covid-19 5 times, and tested negative every time.

Why must anyone take a shot to make YOU feel safer?

If you've had your shot, and your family has all had theirs, what business is it of yours to make sure everyone else has to?

My objection is not over the shot itself. I could have an injection with little or no thought about it. In fact, when I travel overseas, I take whatever "injections" are required to enter the other country. I do so because I choose to visit and so I accept the requirements. My other choice is not to go. I can make that choice too.

I simply don't like the idea of someone else exerting control over my body. Whether it is a person trying to make me a slave, or my government acting like I am property to be handled as it sees fit. This is especially true when it comes to things like vaccine which serve to protect the person injected by creating antibodies.

Now if there was a permanent cure, which by injection would not only protect us, but destroy the virus permanently? One shot would not bother me.

But as with the annual Flu shots, making me take them to make YOU feel safer? I don't think so.

 

[CLAX1911]

Maybe it's time to just disobey covid restrictions.

A guideline to limit indoor airborne transmission of COVID-19

Airborne transmission arises through the inhalation of aerosol droplets exhaled by an infected person and is now thought to be the primary transmission route of COVID-19. By assuming that the respiratory droplets are mixed uniformly through an indoor space, we derive a simple safety guideline...

www.pnas.org

The study suggests the 6-ft social distancing rule or even a 60 ft social distancing rule masks or no masks in indoor spaces offers little to no protection.

Proof positive people will do anything some dumbass in a white coat says.

 

[CLAX1911]

Hmmm,

I'm not a Republican, nor a Democrat. I have no Party affiliation.

I also haven't had a flu shot since I left the Army in 1989.

I've also never caught a cold or the flu since I was 9 years old.

I've been exposed to both many times. I've also been exposed to Covid-19 5 times, and tested negative every time.

Why must anyone take a shot to make YOU feel safer?

If you've had your shot, and your family has all had theirs, what business is it of yours to make sure everyone else has to?

My objection is not over the shot itself. I could have an injection with little or no thought about it. In fact, when I travel overseas, I take whatever "injections" are required to enter the other country. I do so because I choose to visit and so I accept the requirements. My other choice is not to go. I can make that choice too.

I simply don't like the idea of someone else exerting control over my body. Whether it is a person trying to make me a slave, or my government acting like I am property to be handled as it sees fit. This is especially true when it comes to things like vaccine which serve to protect the person injected by creating antibodies.

Now if there was a permanent cure, which by injection would not only protect us, but destroy the virus permanently? One shot would not bother me.

But as with the annual Flu shots, making me take them to make YOU feel safer? I don't think so.

I'm not sure if the vaccine really is as useful as they say it is. I spoke to my doctor yesterday about some issue I was having, while I was there I asked him about the covid shot since I had covid a few weeks ago I have an immunity for a little while, not sure how long, he told me don't be in any Rush to get the vaccine sometime vaccinated by having fought the virus off. So I think I'm going to hold off on it.

 

[AJG]

Hmmm,

I'm not a Republican, nor a Democrat. I have no Party affiliation.

I also haven't had a flu shot since I left the Army in 1989.

I've also never caught a cold or the flu since I was 9 years old.

I've been exposed to both many times. I've also been exposed to Covid-19 5 times, and tested negative every time.

Why must anyone take a shot to make YOU feel safer?

If you've had your shot, and your family has all had theirs, what business is it of yours to make sure everyone else has to?

My objection is not over the shot itself. I could have an injection with little or no thought about it. In fact, when I travel overseas, I take whatever "injections" are required to enter the other country. I do so because I choose to visit and so I accept the requirements. My other choice is not to go. I can make that choice too.

I simply don't like the idea of someone else exerting control over my body. Whether it is a person trying to make me a slave, or my government acting like I am property to be handled as it sees fit. This is especially true when it comes to things like vaccine which serve to protect the person injected by creating antibodies.

Now if there was a permanent cure, which by injection would not only protect us, but destroy the virus permanently? One shot would not bother me.

But as with the annual Flu shots, making me take them to make YOU feel safer? I don't think so.

Has anyone actually proposed forcing people to get a vaccine? As far as I can tell the only thing that has been proposed are ways for us to restrict people from doing things who haven't been vaccinated. If places in the US start requiring vaccine cards, being able to visit those places and accepting their requirements is 100% your choice.

 

[CLAX1911]

Has anyone actually proposed forcing people to get a vaccine? As far as I can tell the only thing that has been propose are ways for us to restrict people from doing things who haven't been vaccinated. If places in the US start requiring vaccine cards, being able to visit those places and accepting their requirements is 100% your choice.

The stripping people of Liberty is forcing them to get the vaccine.

That's like saying nobody forces you to pay taxes you can just not have any money or property.

I don't think we should ever get to a point where we have to prove we've had medical procedures what goes on between a doctor and a patient should stay there. Unless of course we want to overturn roe v Wade since that was about privacy.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Has anyone actually proposed forcing people to get a vaccine? As far as I can tell the only thing that has been proposed are ways for us to restrict people from doing things who haven't been vaccinated. If places in the US start requiring vaccine cards, being able to visit those places and accepting their requirements is 100% your choice.

"Vaccine cards?" Hmmmm. Welcome to the Police State of America??

As long as I have alternatives; like curbside services, home delivery, etc., then I could care less about your demands before letting me enter your premises of business.

 

[CLAX1911]

"Vaccine cards?" Hmmmm. Welcome to the Police State of America??

As long as I have alternatives; like curbside services, home delivery, etc., then I could care less about your demands before letting me enter your premises of business.

That's an amazing duality right, "all cops are bastards defund the police" oh and also set up a police state.

 

[VySky]

It’s only going to go downhill from here. Due to Fauci complete incompetence I predicted months ago vaccine would be stacking up unused. Covid dog just doesn’t have the bite to get Americans to trust Fauci anymore

 

[AJG]

"Vaccine cards?" Hmmmm. Welcome to the Police State of America??

As long as I have alternatives; like curbside services, home delivery, etc., then I could care less about your demands before letting me enter your premises of business.

Exactly, you have access to everything you need and nothing essential was taken away from you. You can enjoy your liberties where you are not putting others in harms way.

 

[CLAX1911]

Exactly, you have access to everything you need and nothing essential was taken away from you. You can enjoy your liberties where you are not putting others in harms way.

If you have a vaccine you are putting others In harm's Way just the same as an on vaccinated person. Just because you have the vaccine doesn't mean you can't spread covid ever wonder why they want you to keep wearing your mask?

 

[Captain Adverse]

Exactly, you have access to everything you need and nothing essential was taken away from you. You can enjoy your liberties where you are not putting others in harms way.

So what was your point if you knew what I was saying all along? I believe I made that specific point in post #2 that you cited.

As for your assumption that someone who is not vaccinated is somehow putting you, a person who IS vaccinated of your own free will, in harms way, how does that figure if you are "safely vaccinated?"

Don't you "trust" your government officials not to lie to you?

 

[VySky]

Exactly, you have access to everything you need and nothing essential was taken away from you. You can enjoy your liberties where you are not putting others in harms way.

You were in more harms way driving to the business than catching Covid after being vaccinated.

 

[AJG]

So what was your point if you knew what I was saying all along? I believe I made that specific point in post #2 that you cited.

You made the claim that people are exerting control over your body. I'm pointing out that no one is doing that.

If you have a vaccine you are putting others In harm's Way just the same as an on vaccinated person. Just because you have the vaccine doesn't mean you can't spread covid ever wonder why they want you to keep wearing your mask?

Infected people spread covid, and vaccines prevent infections. That means because I'm vaccinated, my immunity makes me unlikely to infect others.

 

[CLAX1911]

You made the claim that people are exerting control over your body. I'm pointing out that no one is doing that.

I'm pointing out that they are. And it's not for good reason.

After you get the vaccine you can still spread the virus that's why they tell you to continue wearing a mask. So it's not about stopping the spread it's about capitulating and that's it.

Infected people spread covid, and vaccines prevent infections. That means because I'm vaccinated, my immunity makes me unlikely to infect others.

you can argue with the medical professionals all you want that's not what I said that's what I heard.

 

[VySky]

You made the claim that people are exerting control over your body. I'm pointing out that no one is doing that.



Infected people spread covid, and vaccines prevent infections. That means because I'm vaccinated, my immunity makes me unlikely to infect others.

Re: infecting others. Somebody needs to let Biden know. Out of all the world leaders in the Hollywood Squares zoom call Biden was only one that had a mask on. 2 at that.

 

[CLAX1911]

Re: infecting others. Somebody needs to let Biden know. Out of all the world leaders in the Hollywood Squares zoom call Biden was only one that had a mask on. 2 at that.

Someone also needs to let the all-knowing, holiest of holy his eminence godking Fauci know. Because he's spouting off about how vaccine doesn't mean you don't infect people.

So which is it is this the deadly God plague that fauci says it is, or is he full of shit?

 

[AJG]

I'm pointing out that they are. And it's not for good reason.

I disagree. I think it's very reasonable for businesses to do what they can to prevent the spread of a virus that has shut down businesses across the country for nearly a year.

After you get the vaccine you can still spread the virus that's why they tell you to continue wearing a mask. So it's not about stopping the spread it's about capitulating and that's it.


you can argue with the medical professionals all you want that's not what I said that's what I heard.

Re: infecting others. Somebody needs to let Biden know. Out of all the world leaders in the Hollywood Squares zoom call Biden was only one that had a mask on. 2 at that.

Masks help prevent the spread, and so do vaccines, so if a business requires both I'd be perfectly fine with that.

 

[VySky]

I disagree. I think it's very reasonable for businesses to do what they can to prevent the spread of a virus that has shut down businesses across the country for nearly a year.




Masks help prevent the spread, and so do vaccines, so if a business requires both I'd be perfectly fine with that.

All business cares about is the bottom line. If it’s profitable they’ll do it. If not.........

 

[VySky]

Where I live if a business has a policy of no mask no service, they’ll go out of business. Optional will work. Mandatory no. But that can fly in blue states.

 

[CLAX1911]

I disagree. I think it's very reasonable for businesses to do what they can to prevent the spread of a virus that has shut down businesses across the country for nearly a year.

it won't prevent the spread. If your vaccinated you can still spread it.

The only people hurt by not being vaccinated are the people that aren't vaccinated.

Masks help prevent the spread, and so do vaccines, so if a business requires both I'd be perfectly fine with that.

That's a violation of privacy. I don't have to present my measles vaccine to go to a grocery store. My medical information private.

The only reason a business would require a vaccine is to try and force people to get it. If they're all vaccinated they're at no risk.

So Banning non-vaccinated people is all about shunning them it serves no other purpose.

 

[CLAX1911]

All business cares about is the bottom line. If it’s profitable they’ll do it. If not.........

I don't think they should be allowed to ask about my medical history.

 

[VySky]

I don't think they should be allowed to ask about my medical history.

I don’t either. So I wouldn’t submit.

 

[AJG]

All business cares about is the bottom line. If it’s profitable they’ll do it. If not.........

Right, which is why I think businesses should be able to have vaccine restrictions. If a business can be more profitable by being able to assure customers greater safety, then I think they should be able to do that.

 

[CLAX1911]

Right, which is why I think businesses should be able to have vaccine restrictions
If a business can be more profitable by being able to assure customers greater safety, then I think they should be able to do that.

I think if a business acts like a Gestapo it will hurt the bottom line.