ANAV said:The guy who lobbied to have "One nation under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance is not trying to have "In God We Trust" removed from US currency. Of course all of this with the blessing of the ACLU.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47387
How about the ACLU show there conviction to this cause and give away all there unrighteous money. Hurry up, confirm Alito before this reaches the Supreme court.
ANAV said:The guy who lobbied to have "One nation under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance is not trying to have "In God We Trust" removed from US currency. Of course all of this with the blessing of the ACLU.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47387
How about the ACLU show there conviction to this cause and give away all there unrighteous money. Hurry up, confirm Alito before this reaches the Supreme court.
Kandahar said:Frankly I think that the words "In God we trust" SHOULD be removed from the money. Much like the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, there appears to be no reason for it other than to establish a national religion of theism. Would we suddenly become Sodom and Gomorra in the eyes of your god if we DIDN'T include these phrases on money and in the pledge? No one is asking that they be replaced with "In no god do we trust" or "one nation under no god," just that the federal government should remain neutral on questions of religion.
With that said, I'm not one who goes into conniptions at the sight of Christmas decorations on government buildings, or opposes the idea of an optional elective class in public schools on the history/beliefs of various religions. But these phrases are BLATANTLY promoting theism, which the federal government should not do.
Originally Posted by Kandahar
Frankly I think that the words "In God we trust" SHOULD be removed from the money. Much like the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, there appears to be no reason for it other than to establish a national religion of theism. Would we suddenly become Sodom and Gomorra in the eyes of your god if we DIDN'T include these phrases on money and in the pledge? No one is asking that they be replaced with "In no god do we trust" or "one nation under no god," just that the federal government should remain neutral on questions of religion.
With that said, I'm not one who goes into conniptions at the sight of Christmas decorations on government buildings, or opposes the idea of an optional elective class in public schools on the history/beliefs of various religions. But these phrases are BLATANTLY promoting theism, which the federal government should not do.
aps said:Well stated, Kandahar. I wholeheartedly agree. I do think that the words "under God" should be removed. They were not there in the first place and were ADDED to the pledge decades ago.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:To bad this isn't a discussion about the pledge.
aps said:Really? I see posts that address "under God" in the pledge. Need some coffee this morning, Trajan?
Trajan Octavian Titus said:actually it's about in god we trust on currency.
aps said:Awwwww, did I break some rule against bringing up a side issue that has been addressed by other posters in this thread? OMG--I am devastated if I did break a rule.
NOT.
Don't you have anything more intelligent to post about, Trajan? You know, like how Bush is a veteran? :2funny:
libertarian_knight said:talk about being off topic...
Anyway, first off, the Pledge was develop by an avid socialist. Second "under God" in the pledge and "In God We Trust" were adopted and added as TOKENS in the 1950's to differeniate between the Godless Soviets and Americans.
the whole daily reciting of the pledge by school schildren should be dropped anyway, it is socialist indoctrination after all. But then again, token recitation of alligiance is better than actual patriotism. Just like token alligience to God, by stamping God on the medium of earthly concerns.
If people love God, like I do, no reminder is necessary on money used to buy guns and crack.
If people love there country, like I do, they'd realize the millions of kids that say the pledge every day, without one iota of understanding behind it's significance, nor the congnitive resources to apprciate it (I mean, if they could, why not let them vote, drink, drive, and serve time in regular prisons).
It's simple plain socialist indoctrination and useless tokens to true faith and Worship. If I were God, I'd be pretty offended myself. Good thing God is beyond that huh? at least I think so, for the sake of people's whose faith is so weak they need to be reminded of God when they pay lunch.
Then again, since the whole idea was to differentiate the USA from the USSR, now that we are more like the soviets than ever, let's keep the socialist pledge, get rid of God.
Love of coutry does not come from sayings, but actions. Patriotism does not come from indoctrination, but choice. Trust and love of God does not come from words, but faith.
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