Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

Skateguy · Jan 12, 2010

Growing up in Texas, "Negro" was the name used for "Black" people, as a show of respect. And the name they refereed to themselves as. The Signs on the buses, restrooms, and water fountains, said "Colored". but they were never called "Black' back then. that would have been insulting. --It gets harder to keep up with all the new terms, people give themselves.---I try to just call folks by there names, and be done with all the labels. Is this 2010, or 1910?

Tom Jones · Jan 12, 2010

Skateguy said:
Growing up in Texas, "Negro" was the name used for "Black" people, as a show of respect. And the name they refereed to themselves as. The Signs on the buses, restrooms, and water fountains, said "Colored". but they were never called "Black' back then. that would have been insulting. --It gets harder to keep up with all the new terms, people give themselves.---I try to just call folks by there names, and be done with all the labels. Is this 2010, or 1910?

Ya, and for Reid to use the word negro....... he obviously has his head stuck in the good ol' days of the south and the KKK right along with the other congressional Dems like Robert Byrd, also a member of the KKK.

zimmer · Jan 12, 2010

American said:
Reid could have described that talk as "nigger jive" if he wanted, and they would have protected his ass. Obama would have shook his hand. I mean Reid is the one that sent Obama forward to run for president.

In the words of Eric Holder... Obama and Democrats are Capital "C" Cowards when it comes to dealing with race issues.

100% bonafide, certified, personified Cowards on dealing with race.

.

Taylor · Jan 12, 2010

nonpareil said:
Being an astute politician, he understood that what they need was "milk chocolate", not "dark chocolate" (the likes of Al Sharpton?) or "vanilla" (Bill or Hillary). Obama appeals to blacks, without putting off whites.

His being lightskinned and half white had blacks mostly skeptical of "the magic negro." But this was something he was able overcome by using the negro dialect he somehow picked up in Hawaii. I hear South Central Honolulu is a rough neighborhood.

Most whites didn't vote for Obama.

CaptainCourtesy · Jan 12, 2010

Taylor said:
His being lightskinned and half white had blacks mostly skeptical of "the magic negro." But this was something he was able overcome by using the negro dialect he somehow picked up in Hawaii. I hear South Central Honolulu is a rough neighborhood.

Most whites didn't vote for Obama.

Define "most". If you mean a simple majority, you are correct. However, I'm curious as to how you would quantify "most".

Taylor · Jan 12, 2010

CaptainCourtesy said:
Define "most". If you mean a simple majority, you are correct. However, I'm curious as to how you would quantify "most".

More than a simple majority. Obama lost among whites by something like a 12-point margin, which is huge. Like many modern Democrats, Obama owes his election to minority turnout.

nonpareil · Jan 12, 2010

Taylor said:
More than a simple majority. Obama lost among whites by something like a 12-point margin, which is huge. Like many modern Democrats, Obama owes his election to minority turnout.

For the record, I don't like posting things from slate, but I think this one is pertinent to this discussion:

What we didn't overcome on Election Day. - By Timothy Noah - Slate Magazine

article said:
Obama didn't just win; he became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to win a popular-vote majority. He won a larger proportion of white votes than any previous nonincumbent Democratic presidential candidate since Carter.

snip.

As a white person, I accept with gratitude Coates' warm feelings. But I fear they may be a tad premature. While it's certainly true that enough white people voted for Obama to put him in the Oval Office, the blunt fact remains that a majority of white people did not. Although Obama beat John McCain in the popular vote by an impressive seven-point margin, McCain beat Obama among white voters by an even more impressive 12-point margin. Obama got 53 percent of the broad electorate to vote for him but only 43 percent of the white electorate. When I say "white electorate," I don't mean the white working class, or white Southerners, or any other subgroup whose capacity for racial tolerance has long been held suspect. I mean all white voters.

snip.

Am I saying that any white vote against Obama must be counted as racist? Of course not. White people have all sorts of reasons for deciding who they vote for, and most (though not all) white conservatives would have a hard time justifying a vote for any Democratic presidential candidate. Nor am I saying that all or even most Republican voters harbor racial prejudice against African-Americans. Although a majority of whites was never going to vote for a black Democrat in 2008, it's entirely possible that a majority of whites might have voted for a black Republican. (Remember the brief GOP frenzy to draft Colin Powell to run against Bill Clinton in 1996?) More whites voted for Obama than for the very white John Kerry or Al Gore. That doesn't sound like racist behavior. It's Democrats who most whites dislike, not black people.

snip.

It's no puzzler why Johnson was the last Democrat to win a majority of the white vote. He signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act into law, observing as he signed the former that "we have lost the South for a generation." (Actually, it's been two generations, and nobody would be surprised to see three.) What Johnson didn't allow himself to think was, "We have lost the white vote for a generation." (Again, it's been more like two.) Were LBJ transported to the year 2008, he would be deeply moved to discover that the United States had elected a black man president. But he would find it very depressing to learn that none of his Democratic successors ever won a white majority. Surely, he'd think, it's harder for Democrats to elect a black man president than to win forgiveness from the white majority for abolishing Jim Crow.

The good news is that my fellow Caucasians are aging out of their lock-step Republicanism. Obama failed to win a majority of whites (43 percent); or white men (41 percent); or even white women (46 percent), who are more open to voting Democratic. But he won 54 percent of all white voters age 18 to 29, to McCain's 44 percent. You'll note from the chart that the white majority among voters has been shrinking during the past 40 years, just as the white majority has shrunk in the general population. The three-point drop since 2004, though, is so dramatic that a likely explanation isn't demographics at all but rather a greater disinclination than usual among white folks this year to vote. Turnout in 2008 was about what it was in 2004, and, according to the Center for the Study of the American Electorate, the reason it wasn't higher—as widely expected, given the keen interest in this election—was that fewer Republicans went to the polls. The percentage of Democrats who went to the polls increased 2.6 percentage points while the percentage of Republicans went down 1.3 percentage points. The greatest favor the white race did Obama this year may have been to stay home. That's a far cry from Martin Luther King's dream, but it's a start.

American · Jan 12, 2010

Tom Jones said:
The Dems in the south held the slaves and the Republicans fought to free them - the Dems in the south fought against civil rights in the 60's and the Republican congress wrote comprehensive civil rights legislation and fought to get it past - the Dems do keep Blacks down with their welfare crumbs and Republicans want to bring them up out of the slump the Dems have then in, even with school vouchers - god forbid if they ended up going to a school where their kids go - the Dems had an opportunity to reach into Black communities and train them in the construction industry, which wouldn't have taken much, but instead allowed millions of illegal aliens in to do the work instead, and now they want to do the same with the illegal aliens - hook them up with welfare for votes.

I can see the Dems getting away with this **** years ago, but in the day of information technology...damn, they have dumbed them down better than I could ever imagine.

Well I won't deny that some Democrats worked for civil rights, and got a lot of help from the Republican Party during that time. But I'll say that I think State's rights were still an issue during that time, and southern states have always been sensitive to it. They didn't want the govt and a bunch of activist justices telling them what to do. Sure there were racial scars left after the Civil War that lasted for 100 years, but it was fed right along the way too. Look how the South was treated after the Civil War, in spite of Lincoln's attempt to bring the South back in an amiable manner. The North was plenty guilty for things that went on in the South. They prospered plenty from southern raw materials while feigning disgusted at slavery. That's why many who talk trash about the South don't know what the **** they're talking about. Anyway, that's another topic. There's no doubt in my mind that there is plenty of racism in the Democrat Party to go around, and the hypocracy about it is my biggest complaint about them; that and their idea of spending us into prosperity.

Harry Reid has done enough damage to warrant leaving, he racist and he demoralized our troops.

Taylor · Jan 12, 2010

nonpareil said:
(from Slate)
"Obama didn't just win; he became the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to win a popular-vote majority. He won a larger proportion of white votes than any previous nonincumbent Democratic presidential candidate since Carter."

That's a very long-winded way of saying he got a larger proportion of the white vote than Clinton did in his first term when there were (almost) three viable candidates (Perot).

:lol::lol::lol:

Obama's win was significant in many ways, no reason for the author to make the more mundane stuff sound WAY more meaningful than it was.

windovervocalcords · Jan 12, 2010

zimmer said:
In the words of Eric Holder... Obama and Democrats are Capital "C" Cowards when it comes to dealing with race issues.

100% bonafide, certified, personified Cowards on dealing with race.

.

I would say most of America are cowards when it comes to dealing with race. We can't have a dialogue about it.

winston53660 · Jan 12, 2010

windovervocalcords said:
I would say most of America are cowards when it comes to dealing with race. We can't have a dialogue about it.

I learned a lot when I lived in a black neighborhood. I'm whiter than Wonder Bread.

American · Jan 12, 2010

winston53660 said:
I learned a lot when I lived in a black neighborhood. I'm whiter than Wonder Bread.

Then I guess we can assume that everyone else learned a lot too. So why do blacks complain about being disadvantaged?

winston53660 · Jan 12, 2010

American;1058481827 So why do blacks complain about being disadvantaged?[/QUOTE said:
Maybe it has something to do with 40 acres and a mule.

American · Jan 12, 2010

winston53660 said:
Maybe it has something to do with 40 acres and a mule.

Democrats are famous for empty promises.

LiberalAvenger · Jan 12, 2010

Tom Jones said:
Ya, and for Reid to use the word negro....... he obviously has his head stuck in the good ol' days of the south and the KKK right along with the other congressional Dems like Robert Byrd, also a member of the KKK.

Don't you mean "former" member?

Let's stay honest on this wonderful forum.

LiberalAvenger · Jan 12, 2010

American said:
Then I guess we can assume that everyone else learned a lot too. So why do blacks complain about being disadvantaged?

I don't hear any complaining from people with different pigmentation than whites complaining. However, I do hear a lot o whites complaining about it and I trust a lot of them really are in the republican world of social Darwinism predicated by Ronald Reagan for the establishment the new world oligarchy.:roll:

Tom Jones · Jan 12, 2010

American said:
Well I won't deny that some Democrats worked for civil rights, and got a lot of help from the Republican Party during that time. But I'll say that I think State's rights were still an issue during that time, and southern states have always been sensitive to it. They didn't want the govt and a bunch of activist justices telling them what to do. Sure there were racial scars left after the Civil War that lasted for 100 years, but it was fed right along the way too. Look how the South was treated after the Civil War, in spite of Lincoln's attempt to bring the South back in an amiable manner. The North was plenty guilty for things that went on in the South. They prospered plenty from southern raw materials while feigning disgusted at slavery. That's why many who talk trash about the South don't know what the **** they're talking about. Anyway, that's another topic. There's no doubt in my mind that there is plenty of racism in the Democrat Party to go around, and the hypocracy about it is my biggest complaint about them; that and their idea of spending us into prosperity.

Harry Reid has done enough damage to warrant leaving, he racist and he demoralized our troops.

Yes, some did - there's always an exception to the rule - but freedom and civil rights mainly came from the Republicans - and fighting to keep their slaves and denying people civil rights mainly came from the Democrats.

Reid will not leave until the last minute - it is said that his son is running for governor and he doesn't want to hurt his chances, so he will bow out at the last minute - he is not bowing out now because he doesn't want to scare those who he is trying to convince to vote for the health care bill - Reid is out for pushing the bill - his racist remark put him out with a blemish he will never be able to remove - any hope of leaving a legacy is down the toilet where that little turd belongs.

Gibberish · Jan 12, 2010

Tom Jones said:
Yes, some did - there's always an exception to the rule - but freedom and civil rights mainly came from the Republicans - and fighting to keep their slaves and denying people civil rights mainly came from the Democrats.

Conservative Democrats. Unlike today, Republican and Democratic parties actually had depth to their political ideologies. Being liberal or conservative didn't automatically equate to Democrat or Republican.

The south was full of Conservative Democrats that were very much focused on tradition and limited government. These same Democrats are now southern Republicans.

Tom Jones · Jan 12, 2010

LiberalAvenger said:
Don't you mean "former" member?

Let's stay honest on this wonderful forum.

Here's some honesty for you:

Once a KKKer always a KKKer - the KKK knows this which is why they gave Senator Robert Byrd (D-Wva.) a KKK Lifetime Achievement Award, and they gave it to him because he earned it.

Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award

HANGMAN'S GROVE, WEST VIRGINIA — William Robert Kräukur, President and CEO of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), has chosen Senator Robert Byrd (D-Wva.) as this year’s recipient of the KKK’s Lifetime Achievement Award. The award was presented at the 133rd Annual KKK Transparent Image Awards, taped last night and scheduled to air October 15th (8:00 p.m. ET.)

“The Lifetime Achievement Award reflects individuals at the pinnacle of their respective fields who’ve made significant contributions to the success of the KKK," Kräukur said. "Senator Byrd exemplifies this prestigious award; no living person has worked as hard as he has to keep the black man dependant upon, and subservient to, the white man. Not to mention his outstanding work against Jews and Catholics.”

Senator Byrd’s legislative accomplishments, as well as his ascension as the only KKK alumnus to serve as the Majority Leader of the US Senate, a post he served in for six years (1977-80, 1987-88), made him an obvious choice for this year’s Lifetime Achievement Award. “This distinction, awarded to those who advance the ideals of the KKK through personal achievement and service to all people of Caucasian and protestant heritage, accurately describes the contributions Senator Byrd has made to our racially pure organization,” Kräukur said.

Born in 1917 in North Wilkesboro, North Carolina Robert Byrd was orphaned when his mother was killed in a tragic sausage making accident. Taken to West Virginia by his Auntie Belham and Uncle Peduncle, the future KKK Lifetime Achievement recipient grew up mastering life's early lessons, like learning the proper way to tie a noose.

[SATIRE] Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award

zimmer · Jan 12, 2010

windovervocalcords said:
I would say most of America are cowards when it comes to dealing with race. We can't have a dialogue about it.

LOL... we can't have a dialogue when it comes to Democrats. They simply say... that's enough, we have more important things to do... while screwing thise they claim to "help" at every turn.

The press assists by ignoring. The Dem primary was a great example.

They like to hold on to their race card weapon as a political baton, point to R's as racists, and run the course for weeks at any opportunity.

I was laughing like hell watching the heads of Democrats spin off and explode yesterday... trying to defend Reid.

Cowards.

.

nonpareil · Jan 12, 2010

Taylor said:
That's a very long-winded way of saying he got a larger proportion of the white vote than Clinton did in his first term when there were (almost) three viable candidates (Perot).

:lol::lol::lol:

Obama's win was significant in many ways, no reason for the author to make the more mundane stuff sound WAY more meaningful than it was.

It is long-winded. That's what I hate about slate, they seem to think they are some kind of intellectual and their writing seem somewhat pretentious. But I think the point this article raises seem relevant: did the older white voters who didn't vote for Obama failed to do so because he's black, or because he's a democrat?

MsRetro · Jan 12, 2010

Tom Jones said:
Here's some honesty for you:

Once a KKKer always a KKKer - the KKK knows this which is why they gave Senator Robert Byrd (D-Wva.) a KKK Lifetime Achievement Award, and they gave it to him because he earned it.

Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award

HANGMAN'S GROVE, WEST VIRGINIA — William Robert Kräukur, President and CEO of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), has chosen Senator Robert Byrd (D-Wva.) as this year’s recipient of the KKK’s Lifetime Achievement Award. The award was presented at the 133rd Annual KKK Transparent Image Awards, taped last night and scheduled to air October 15th (8:00 p.m. ET.)

“The Lifetime Achievement Award reflects individuals at the pinnacle of their respective fields who’ve made significant contributions to the success of the KKK," Kräukur said. "Senator Byrd exemplifies this prestigious award; no living person has worked as hard as he has to keep the black man dependant upon, and subservient to, the white man. Not to mention his outstanding work against Jews and Catholics.”

Senator Byrd’s legislative accomplishments, as well as his ascension as the only KKK alumnus to serve as the Majority Leader of the US Senate, a post he served in for six years (1977-80, 1987-88), made him an obvious choice for this year’s Lifetime Achievement Award. “This distinction, awarded to those who advance the ideals of the KKK through personal achievement and service to all people of Caucasian and protestant heritage, accurately describes the contributions Senator Byrd has made to our racially pure organization,” Kräukur said.

Born in 1917 in North Wilkesboro, North Carolina Robert Byrd was orphaned when his mother was killed in a tragic sausage making accident. Taken to West Virginia by his Auntie Belham and Uncle Peduncle, the future KKK Lifetime Achievement recipient grew up mastering life's early lessons, like learning the proper way to tie a noose.

[SATIRE] Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award

You tipped your hand a little too far by linking a satire piece & trying to assert that it's truth. Congrats, though, you really had us going for quite a few posts.

Fiddytree · Jan 12, 2010

Rule of thumb: If seen as contributor to the greater good despite recent controversy, back political bedfellow despite it violating one's principles.

Tom Jones · Jan 12, 2010

MsRetro said:
You tipped your hand a little too far by linking a satire piece & trying to assert that it's truth. Congrats, though, you really had us going for quite a few posts.

Truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction.

Groucho · Jan 12, 2010

Tom Jones said:
Here's some honesty for you:
[SATIRE] Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award

I assume since you posted a satirical not-true article with the word "satire" highlighted in it the URL that you are trying to be funny. I'd hate to think that you said "here's some honesty for you" while being dishonest, after all.

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