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If the suspect in question is not a threat then the best course would be continued surveillance and a radio call for back-up - especially if you haven't dotted all your I's and crossed all your T's. In this case simply telling him why he was being detained may have solved the problem, though.I wish someone who says this would tell me what other action a LEO should take if someone doesn't comply with a lawful order...
You know, whether this guy was lying or not, this is clearly an excessive use of force. I think the ranger should go through tasering for a solid 10 minutes for this.
I would wager heavily that the man is going to get an apology and the ranger is going to get reprimanded or fired.
No it's not, if the cop wants to stop me, they better have a damn good reason too. And why are you assuming the person who got tazzed was being an ass? You've got no evidence to make that claim. And from the article, the officer had no reason to detain him other than he was walking, and that's not a reason.
You taser someone when they are being violent or resisting arrest. You don't taser them as a matter of compliance.
In America, one does not have the right to walk around without your papers.
There may be more to this story but there is never a scenario where someone should be detained for improperly walking their dogs.
When a LEO tells you to "Jump" you ask "How High?" ON THE WAY UP. If you choose not to, I have absolutely no sympathy for anything that happens to you. When you give that LEO a false name, address, etc.... you get even LESS sympathy from me. Hell, in her place I'd probably have SHOT the SOB rather than tasering him.
Wow you would make a good slave. Good to know.
You're out of the conversation because you're defending the ranger merely because she's a woman. You have zero credibility. I have just lost a ton of respect for you.
THERE WAS NO LAWFUL ORDER.
A “lawful order” would have included some rational attempt at an explanation as to why the subject was being detained, and why he should comply.
An officer of the law does not have the authority to just stop and harass anyone at random with no cause.
Deciding whether or not to escalate the situation is always a choice.
If the suspect in question is not a threat then the best course would be continued surveillance and a radio call for back-up - especially if you haven't dotted all your I's and crossed all your T's. In this case simply telling him why he was being detained may have solved the problem, though.
I was taught respect for authority, regardless. You do what you're told by the cop and adjudicate it later if necessary. We would all be a lot better off if more people had been taught proper respect for authority figures.
Good to know, unlike you I am not a dog though that obeys at the sound of a whistle. Again, glad you are.
Respect is a two way street. If an officer is respectful towards me and when I ask "why am I being detained" and they give me the answer, then I will respect the office.
If however, in this instance, the officer repeatedly (allegedly) did not let the man know why he is being detained, the officer showed no respect so no respect should have been given to the officer.
Then you are part of the BIGGEST PROBLEM with this society, so far as I'm concerned.
You respect the badge/office. You may not respect the individual officer. You may not even like the officer. However, you damn well ought to be respecting the badge and the office. As I said, you do what you're told, and file the complaint afterwards if necessary. Otherwise, you get exactly what you deserve so far as I'm concerned. Whether it's a smack in the head, a shock, or two rounds in the chest.
Aww I thought it was those gays you dislike that are part of the BIGGEST PROBLEM with this society. Well if you think I'm wrong, I guess I'm actually right.
And in this case, the ranger will most likely get reprimanded or fired while the guy is able to successfuly sue and win.
Bottom line, if you want respect you damn well better give it. Don't like it, tough.
I'm the first to criticize officers who abuse or misuse their authority, but I'm just not seeing it in this incident. The guy was walking his dogs off leash which is against the law. The ranger approached him about that violation. I'm guessing she asked his name and was intending on giving him a citation. To which he responded with what was probably an obviously false name and tried to walk away. The ranger told him to stop, he refused and she tazed him. The reason he was being detained is obvious he broke the law twice - walking his dogs off leash and then giving a false name. And then a third time when he tried to leave.
I was taught respect for authority, regardless. You do what you're told by the cop and adjudicate it later if necessary. We would all be a lot better off if more people had been taught proper respect for authority figures.
Simply for the South Park reference.... Welcome to the Ignore List.
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