In my view, there are two problems with gestures like this.
1. They turn what should be a totally apolitical enterprise - amateur athletics - into a fight and a discussion that has nothing to do with the enterprise.
2. They focus attention on the matter and then, when the none related event ends, the focus of the attention dissipates and/or disappears.
Personally, I hate people hijacking important events for political grandstanding - even when I agree with the purpose of the grandstanding.
Look for the Putin haters and the ones that want to knock China down a peg or two before they get too big and begin doing what we've been doing all along.
never seen that before, bizzare. Why did they have the kids do that?
Because no one perceived the Nazis as bad guys in 1940. The Progressives of the period worshipped the mother****ers...
It's called the Bellamy salute. Hitler stole it from America. Or maybe the Bellamy/Nazi salutes are a socialist thing ?
Bellamy was an American progressive/socialist. He wrote the American Pledge of Allegiance and came up with the Bellamy salute that every American in school would recite while doing the Bellamy salute every morning.
They dropped the salute in December of 1941 for some reason.
You have to remember, most Marxist, socialist , progressives and many of the labor unions in America were supporters of Hitler. Until 1941 when Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. Hitler was no longer considered to be a fellow comrade. He became the enemy. The Nationalist Socialist (Nazis) was no longer considered to be a form of socialism but would all of a sudden become right wing. It's called revisionism to hide who Hitler's supporters were before 1941.
Wrong again!
>" Everybody now knows how evil Nazi eugenics were: How all sorts of people were exterminated not because of anything they had done but simply because of the way they had been born. And we have all heard how disastrous were the Nazi efforts to build up the "master race" through selective breeding of SS men with the best of German women -- the "Lebensborn" project. Good leftists today recoil in horror from all that of course and use their "Hitler was a conservative" mantra to load those evils onto conservatives. But Hitler was a socialist. As he himself said:
"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." (Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
So it should come as no surprise that Hitler's eugenics were an intergral part of his socialism and that the great supporters of compulsory eugenics worldwide in Hitler's day were overwhelmingly of the Left. Left-influenced historians commonly blur the distinction between a belief in eugenic or dysgenic processes and actually advocating a state-enforced eugenics program but we can find the facts if we look carefully. And it was American Leftists upon whom Hitler principally drew for his "inspiration" in the eugenics field.
In the USA, the great eugenicists of the first half of the 20th century were the "Progressives". As it says here:
A significant number of Progressives -- including David Starr Jordan, Robert Latham Owen, William Allen Wilson, Harry Emerson Fosdick, Robert Latou Dickinson, Katherine Bement Davis, and Virginia Gildersleeve--were deeply involved with the eugenics movement.
And as we read further here: -> FrontPage Magazine - Eugenics and the Left "<
You've claimed this before, and I already pointed out once to you how that is a total lie. Yet you continue to spread it.
What do you call someone who knowingly propagates a known falsehood?
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Is this some kind of joke? I was clearly referring to the bolded in your post (the thing about people supporting Hitler, which I debunked months ago), not the ****ing Bellamy salute (which I already addressed in an earlier post). That's why I ****ing bolded it.
That word "bolded" is that some kind of Daily Planet slang that Clark Kent used ?
BTW: How many credible sources do you want that shows that American progressives supported Hitler ?
And a bigger BTW:
Don't pull the liberal revisionism on the DP.
This is the post you were responding to
>"Originally Posted by APACHERAT
It's called the Bellamy salute. Hitler stole it from America. Or maybe the Bellamy/Nazi salutes are a socialist thing ?
Bellamy was an American progressive/socialist. He wrote the American Pledge of Allegiance and came up with the Bellamy salute that every American in school would recite while doing the Bellamy salute every morning.
They dropped the salute in December of 1941 for some reason.
You have to remember, most Marxist, socialist , progressives and many of the labor unions in America were supporters of Hitler. Until 1941 when Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. Hitler was no longer considered to be a fellow comrade. He became the enemy. The Nationalist Socialist (Nazis) was no longer considered to be a form of socialism but would all of a sudden become right wing. It's called revisionism to hide who Hitler's supporters were before 1941."<
You've claimed this before, and I already pointed out once to you how that is a total lie. Yet you continue to spread it.
What do you call someone who knowingly propagates a known falsehood?
If you know of another reason why the Bellamy salute was dropped, let us know.
American socialist supported Hitler until Hitler attacked their comrade, Stalin. That's the way it was back then. When everyone who lived back then is dead and buried, then rewrite history.
My understanding is the complete opposite. That Owens gained significant popularity in germany during the games. There was even a widely circulated german article from long that described the contest between the two and his eventual loss.
My response to you had nothing to do with the Bellamy salute.
You didn't take the initiative to point out exactly what you were responding to.
To get back on topic, I seem to remember that internationalist socialist flew the rainbow flag before the LGBT activist adopted it.
Any connections do you think ?
The cities of St. John's, Quebec City, and Montreal will fly the rainbow LGBT flag to protest the treatment of gays in Russia for the duration of the Olympics in Sochi.
This article can be found at the Montreal Gazette.
I hope more cities will choose to protest the anti-gay laws in Russia by doing this. Hopefully we can get more Canadian cities to do it as well as some American cities. Do you think that your/nearest city would raise the LGBT flag?
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No.
Wrong again Kobi.
The “Progressive Challenge” was a project which more than 100 leftist organizations co-sponsored and launched in 1997, in an effort to unite their activities and talking points under a “multi-issue progressive agenda.” Among these co-sponsors, which worked closely with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, were the following organizations: the 50 Years Is Enough Network, the AFL-CIO; Alliance for Democracy (Washington chapter); Americans for a Sustainable Economy; Americans for Democratic Action; Amnesty International; Brookings Institution; Campaign for America's Future; Campaign for Health Security; Campaign for New Priorities; Center for Defense Information; Catholic Charities; Center for Law and Social Policy; Center for Responsive Politics; Center for the Advancement of Public Policy; Center of Concern; Center on Budget and Policy Priorities; Child Welfare League; Children's Defense Fund; Citizens for Tax Justice; Coalition on Human Needs; Consumer's Union; Council for a Livable World; Defenders of Wildlife; Demilitarization for Democracy; Democratic Socialists of America; Development GAP; Economic Policy Institute; Friends Committee on National Legislation; Friends of the Earth; Fund for New Priorities in America; Human Rights Watch; Institute for Policy Studies; Institute for Women's Policy Research; International Labor Rights Fund; Latin American Working Group; Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights; Long-Term Care Campaign; National Association of Public Hospitals; National Black Child Development Institute; National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare; National Council of La Raza; National Council of Negro Women; National Council of Senior Citizens; National Education Association; National Union of Journalists; National Jobs for All Coalition; National Organization for Women; National Rainbow Coalition (which evolved into the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition); National Priorities Project; National Urban League; NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby; Peace Action; Preamble Center for Public Policy; Public Campaign; Public Citizen; Stakeholders Alliance; Unitarian Universalist Service Committee; UNITE (which evolved into UNITE HERE!); United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America; United for a Fair Economy; U.S. Campaign to Ban Landmines; U.S. Civil Rights Commission; USA Network for Habitat II; Veterans for Peace; Witness for Peace; Working Assets; and Women, Law and Development.
June is Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender pride month, and the rainbow flag — that iconic symbol for gay pride — is flying from Athens to San Francisco to Brazil.
Enter artist Gilbert Baker, the man who first came up with the flag’s design some 34 years ago. After being discharged from the Army during the Vietman War, Baker settled in San Francisco, where he taught himself to sew and soon began crafting banners for gay marches and events, CBS Chicago reports. He eventually befriended Harvey Milk, the city’s first openly gay elected official. Given Baker’s influential role in the gay community, in 1978 the San Francisco Gay and Lesbian Pride Parade commissioned him to design a new symbol that could be used year after year. Hoping to represent diversity and acceptance, Baker soon settled on the image of a rainbow.
“The rainbow is a part of nature and you have to be in the right place to see it,” Baker told CBS.
The LGBT community has been using the rainbow flag since the 1970s.
Meet Gilbert Baker, the Man Who Invented the Gay Pride Rainbow Flag | TIME.com
But the International Co-operative Alliance say they created the rainbow flag over fifty years before there was even a gay bathhouse in San Fransico.
International Cooperative Information Center: Origins of the Rainbow Flag and the International Co-operative Day
But the International Co-operative Alliance say they created the rainbow flag over fifty years before there was even a gay bathhouse in San Fransico.
International Cooperative Information Center: Origins of the Rainbow Flag and the International Co-operative Day
while this wont do much gestures are nice i like how google flew a gay flag in spite today
wait are they even allowed google access in russia?
How do you know so much about gay bath houses?
The cities of St. John's, Quebec City, and Montreal will fly the rainbow LGBT flag to protest the treatment of gays in Russia for the duration of the Olympics in Sochi.
This article can be found at the Montreal Gazette.
I hope more cities will choose to protest the anti-gay laws in Russia by doing this. Hopefully we can get more Canadian cities to do it as well as some American cities. Do you think that your/nearest city would raise the LGBT flag?
Go to Google settings and change the language preferance to Russian.
Make sure you're sitting down and don't get to pissed off.
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