Hang on, are you seriously claiming that blaming a cop, and defending a criminal = racist in of itself?
Are you perverting the definition of racist like I think you are?
It amuses me when scumbag sympathizers think cops should not use lethal force to stop violent criminals and suspects.
We tend to have a love/hate relationship with LAPD. They're a good police force, but certain jerks tend to spoil people's perceptions.
I'd say about 95% of LAPD are good cops trying to do their jobs well. 1% are just trying to get their 20 and get out, 1% are power-tripping, and 3% have genuine attitude problems.
a knife is very high risk. I have some photos I could show you of what one guy can do to a cops with a knife...after he had been tasered and pepper sprayed.
if you attack a cop with a knife, expect to get your stupid ass shot.
However, I will say the police lost a golden opportunity to use their police station as bait. All they had to do is block off the streets behind the angry "immigrant" mob and arrested all sorts of illegal alien invaders and other disruptors of the peace.
It amuses me when scumbag sympathizers think cops should not use lethal force to stop violent criminals and suspects.
Never said any of them were.Which of the cops defending the public from a crazed drunk with the knife were "jerks"?
We don't care that you are amused. That is why we have investigations, and cops are not judge and jury.
Cops have been known to abuse their power. It's not that they should not use lethal force to stop violent criminals, but sometimes they go beyond the call of duty. And suspects? You don't shoot at a "suspect" - it may turn out the person is totally innocent.
Only people that are hate-filled settle everything with violence and don't care if innocents are taken down.
Never said any of them were.
I only wish ICE was there checking immigration status for illegal mexicans. What a bunch of F-ing RACISTS! America needs to do something VERY VERY soon or this **** is going to get out of hand. Send this punta terrorist / invaders back to mexico!!!
Jae C. Hong / AP
A man yells as he listens to Los Angeles police Chief Charlie Beck during a community meeting Wednesday night in Los Angeles.
LOS ANGELES — An angry crowd greeted Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck with boos, whistles and chants of "Justicia!" Wednesday night at a community meeting intended to calm residents after police fatally shot a man they said brandished a knife.
A crowd of more than 300 packed a school in the Westlake neighborhood where an officer shot Manuel Jamines, 37, to death Sunday after he allegedly lunged toward the officer with a switchblade.
The crowd jeered Beck when he defended officers by reading a witness's account of how Jamines threatened her.
Beck said the witness, a neighborhood resident who was not named, told three bicycle officers that a man with blood on his hands tried to stab her and a pregnant woman next to her.
As the woman ran away, she heard the three officers telling the suspect to drop the knife, then she heard three or four shots, turned around and saw Jamines on the sidewalk, Beck said.
"She referred to the officers as her angels who had descended from heaven to save her life and that of the pregnant lady," Beck said.
The crowd exploded when they heard the witness's account. One man in the audience called out that the story sounded like it was made up in Hollywood.
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It is not known that those in the crowd were illegals. You should try being nondiscriminatory and present the facts available without displaying the typical conservative hate-filled attitude toward those that look Hispanic. I know that is hard for conservatives to do.And second guessing the cops in the media, siding with a mindless herd of illegal aliens, is not the proper thing to do.
The man attacking the police with a knife isn't a suspect, he's a threat. Shooting the occasional "suspect" in the line of duty is why cops have guns.
Again, you are taking the story at face value. Furthermore, some conservatives on this thread have accused Liberals of being scumbags, just because we are not as quick to judge as conservatives. I guess if the story turns the other way, none of the cons will consider themselves scumbags, for having believed a story that turned out to be false.The cops in question did not have non-lethal alternatives at hand to deal with the emergent crisis, they did what they had to do, and the person making the mistake is dead, saving us thousands of dollars of prison time and deportation costs.
It is hate-filled, because the fact that he was Hispanic should have nothing to do with the ranting that is going on. Crap like that happens on a daily basis, but the OP is trying to illicit more hate toward Hispanics, calling them illegal when he does not have any proof that they were.What an absurd position to take.
"Only" "hate-filled" people deal with "Everything" with violence?
And if it turns out that the witness who claims he was unarmed is telling the truth, then what are you going to say?Perhaps you're referring to the drunk invader attacking the blue-suits with his little knife?
Do you have trouble reading? Where did I say that. I'm saying that we can't jump to conclusions until we have the full story. We don't know for sure that the man was actually attacking the cops. I don't believe everything a cop says just because they are cops, like I posted above, they have been known to make mistakes.Are you assuming without basis that the cops that were forced to shoot him don't care about innocents?
Again, where did I say that? Not only do you have trouble reading, you are putting words in my mouth. You have no proof that th story as reported is the final version.Are you assuming the crazed knife-wielding invader was innocent? Perhaps he was merely stretching before engaging in a set of vigorous calisthenics while trimming his nose hairs?
If that is the case, then so be it. But the op has no reason to call all the people that were protesting it as illegals and suggesting they all be sent to Mexico, especially since the man wasn't even from Mexico. That just implies ignorance.The drunken invader was not innocent, he was committing a crime.
And you will have to deal with your racial bias, along with the fact that it may turn out that he was unarmed and the police acted in haste. If you were one of the ones issuing insults toward people that you don't even know are not American citizens, then you also have to deal with your hate-filled attitude.Those are the two facts you'll have to deal with.
Apparently the OP didn't research his story well, it turns out the man isn't even from Mexico, but Guatemala. Guatemala isn't in Mexico.
It never fails, conservatives immediately take the side of the cops in an altercation that involves Hispanics,
whether they be legal or not. Conservatives have spewed their venom and called Liberals all kinds of names for merely asking questions to try and clarify the whole scenario.
Cons are not interested in the facts, they've made up their minds. As usual, they act before they know all the facts.
It is not known that those in the crowd were illegals.
You should try being nondiscriminatory and present the facts available
I'm sorry, that's the dumbest rationalization I have ever heard.And a final thought:
If the illegal alien criminal invader had stayed in Guatemala, he wouldn't have been in Los Angeles to get drunk and attack the cops and get himself shot.
It's all his fault, and no on else's.
I'm sorry, that's the dumbest rationalization I have ever heard.
It's his fault if the cops got trigger happy? This is the same logic as saying rape is entirely the victim's fault because they were at the location of the crime when they were.
Dumb, really dumb.
I'm speaking strictly your warped logic. I'm not familiar with the incident and as such cant comment on it.The cops didn't get trigger happy. That's your prejudices talking.
The cops, as far as is currently know, complied with departmental procedures regarding their use of deadly force in self-defense.
And, was anything important broken when they defended themselves? The taxpayers paid a lot of money training them, you know.
No, you pinned the ENTIRE incident COMPLETELY on the person by linking them being undocumented as a reason for getting killed.You've failed to demonstrate any failure in my logic.
The cops were attacked.
The cops killed the attacker.
The word to describe this event is "routine".
The only thing that makes this event newsworthy is the crazed mob of illegal aliens pelting the cops with eggs for two days.
No, you pinned the ENTIRE incident COMPLETELY on the person by linking them being undocumented as a reason for getting killed.
"If the illegal alien criminal invader had stayed in Guatemala, he wouldn't have been in Los Angeles to get drunk and attack the cops and get himself shot."
I worked my way through college doing drywall. you can do a lot of damage with a "putty knife" so harping on the fact that the guy was only carrying a putty knife is a bull**** arguement. damn near any solid object can be used as a deadly weapon given the motivation to do so.
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Right or wrong a needless death is always a tragedy.
Whatever the fellow was he is no more and never will be anything else but a statistic! Unless questions are asked his death is meaningless!
Sad fate that, be it for anyone!
No death of any sort could or should, at least in my humble opinion, be accepted as justified unless the facts as have been eluded to are crystal clear. As in any conspirers' theories many are willing to look beyond official explanations to see the unseen or think the unthinkable.
One could shoot a substance into another to make him look drunk or act weird and crazy glue a knife into his hand send him out to see if the cops will take him out.
Suspect could be unfortunate to panic,
perhaps have an arresting officer a wee bit too nervous,
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