quite short really
why is it that all the apologies for a militant islam come from the liberal left when it stands for everything the liberal left opposes?
examples, please.mikhail said:why is it that all the apologies for a militant islam come from the liberal left when it stands for everything the liberal left opposes?
Hang on , as a feminist we have always opposed militant Islam or fundamentalism that subjucate and pervert any religion into mistreatment of women. IN 1994 as a med student I joined a feminist organization started by Jane Brokaw ( daughter of tom brokaw) and we went to Afganistan to provide medical care for women under the Taliban regime because they did not allow women to be doctors and women could not see male doctors ( so essentially no medical care.) We championed the government about the dangers of such a regime but our voices fell on deaf ears ( after all we were just hysterical feminists) until 9-11........ I don't recall any other conservative organization at the time sounding the alarm about the Taliban but almost of the femiinst organizations did.
Link to a report dessimated among the feminists blog sites in 2000 about the Taliban
RAWA in WIN - Women's International Net Magazine, Issue 36, October 2000
anyway, just showing how we as women have been fighting them for years but no one took our concerns seriously. Afterall, if a society or culture allows for mistreatment of women, it only extends to the other segments of society.
wrong. what your post has already brought are a few questions. which left wingers? name names, please. you made the charge. please elaborate. it's impossible to respond if you aren't specific.mikhail said:I think my post here is just going to bring deniles that any left wingers have been doing this.
very good i aplaud you efforts.
what im actually talking about is people who defend militant islams treatment of minorities such as those you speak of maybe less coming from the us but coming from what i see in the uk it seems to be the left that are excusing militant islam as they are anti bush and anti conservative.
I think my post here is just going to bring deniles that any left wingers have been doing this.
If we want to play this game, what about the right apologizing for war-mongering, anti-American, bullshit Christians that don't have a clue as to what GOD is all about?
quite short really
why is it that all the apologies for a militant islam come from the liberal left when it stands for everything the liberal left opposes?
wrong. what your post has already brought are a few questions. which left wingers? name names, please. you made the charge. please elaborate. it's impossible to respond if you aren't specific.
TOT, that article was not about militant Islam. that article was about you!TOT said:Noam Chomsky:
A Quick Reaction, by Noam Chomsky
TOT, that article was not about militant Islam. that article was about you!
"the hard jingoist right refuses to understand."
indeed.
Puff puff pass. You must've been thinking of some other article, but I do like how you have to use curse words in every post, it makes you seem so cool and attractive.Bullshit that was Noam Chomsky being apologetic and sympathetic to Islamic Fascism just as he was with the Communists in North Korea and Cambodia, Chomsky has never met an anti-American genocidal tyrant that he doesn't like, he's the ****ing scum of the earth.
Puff puff pass. You must've been thinking of some other article, but I do like how you have to use curse words in every post, it makes you seem so cool and attractive.
Do you mean the doctrine of islam rejects civil liberties such as abortion, freedom of speech, sexual equality, religious freedom, social equality, and a list of social behaviors yet, civil libertarians (limits government social involvement) which are also economic conservatives (promotes government economic involvement), collectively identified as the liberal left, overlook the threat to the former ideology?quite short really
why is it that all the apologies for a militant islam come from the liberal left when it stands for everything the liberal left opposes?
to his credit, TOT was merely responding to the questions posed, essentially, "what liberals have ever defended militant Islam?" mikhail made that charge but neglected to name names. the problem with TOT's post of course is that Chomsky is not an apologist for militant Islam. Chomsky is a responsible citizen, not an irresponsible citizen. responsible citizens criticize their own government when their own government is screwed up, and on occasion is just as terror-inducing as the terror-supporting regimes it criticizes. irresponsible citizens refuse to see it. this is not defending militant Islam.tecoyah said:Perhaps renaming this thread "question for Noam Chomsky about militant Islam".....would be a good Idea?
to his credit, TOT was merely responding to the questions posed, essentially, "what liberals have ever defended militant Islam?" mikhail made that charge but neglected to name names. the problem with TOT's post of course is that Chomsky is not an apologist for militant Islam. Chomsky is a responsible citizen, not an irresponsible citizen.
Responsible citizens criticize their own government when their own government is screwed up, and on occasion is just as terror-inducing as the terror-supporting regimes it criticizes. irresponsible citizens refuse to see it. this is not defending militant Islam.
TOT seems not to realize that Chomsky criticized both al Qaeda and Clinton in the article he posted. TOT himself could've written it! TOT, in his partisanship, has overlooked statements such as the following, and has chosen to make stuff up about Chomsky.
"The September 11 attacks were major atrocities." - Noam Chomsky
what US liberal has ever apologized for militant Islam?
to his credit, TOT was merely responding to the questions posed, essentially, "what liberals have ever defended militant Islam?" mikhail made that charge but neglected to name names. the problem with TOT's post of course is that Chomsky is not an apologist for militant Islam. Chomsky is a responsible citizen, not an irresponsible citizen.
Responsible citizens criticize their own government when their own government is screwed up, and on occasion is just as terror-inducing as the terror-supporting regimes it criticizes. irresponsible citizens refuse to see it. this is not defending militant Islam.
TOT seems not to realize that Chomsky criticized both al Qaeda and Clinton in the article he posted. TOT himself could've written it! TOT, in his partisanship, has overlooked statements such as the following, and has chosen to make stuff up about Chomsky.
"The September 11 attacks were major atrocities." - Noam Chomsky
what US liberal has ever apologized for militant Islam?
where does Chomsky do that?TOT said:...vitriolic anti-American rant making excuses for the attacks, trying to justify said attack...
um, hello? nice to hear your opinions about stuff in the 60's, but what about the question I asked relevant to the thread?
where does Chomsky do that?
TOT, what US liberal has ever apologized for militant Islam?
PS: Chomsky is not a liberal, he is an anarchist.
examples, please.
quite short really
why is it that all the apologies for a militant islam come from the liberal left when it stands for everything the liberal left opposes?
[emphasis added]But one cannot get around what [Thomas] Jefferson heard when he went with John Adams to wait upon Tripoli’s ambassador to London in March 1785. When they inquired by what right the Barbary states preyed upon American shipping, enslaving both crews and passengers, America’s two foremost envoys were informed that “it was written in the Koran, that all Nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon whoever they could find and to make Slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.” (It is worth noting that the United States played no part in the Crusades, or in the Catholic reconquista of Andalusia.)
Ambassador Abd Al-Rahman did not fail to mention the size of his own commission, if America chose to pay the protection money demanded as an alternative to piracy. So here was an early instance of the “heads I win, tails you lose” dilemma, in which the United States is faced with corrupt regimes, on the one hand, and Islamic militants, on the other—or indeed a collusion between them.
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