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Putin threatens wwIII? or just more propaganda?

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Montecresto said:
Can't see that the claim is substantiated in the link. And yes, it would be clearly a ridiculous notion.
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It was widely reported last week, when he made the claim. He said, basically, that he could take the capitals of the Balkans and the Baltic states in two days if he wanted to, during an interview about Ukraine peace talks. I don't think it was a threat of intended action, as much as a boast of what he felt they could do if they wanted to, so in comparison to take Kiev, Ukraine would be a walk in the park. It was just Putin peeing an a rock to mark his territory like a feral dog and rattle his sabre during the peace talks to be an arrogant bully. Nothing more, IMHO.
 
Sherman123 said:
Seriously? The Inquistr? Damn man.
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Seems to be the first place to pick it up that is not in German (don't speak German) and no I don't like the inquistr either... Its the first place I saw it at least.
Montecresto said:
Can't see that the claim is substantiated in the link. And yes, it would be clearly a ridiculous notion.
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They say allegedly multiple times. Wouldn't call that "substantiated" by any means.
 
My question was more if he actually said it, or if its just western propaganda. I would go with the latter, as I don't think he is that insane, and that sort of speech during a peace talk does not help him, as these actions would force NATOs hand in that region, including Ukraine. It would not give him any advantage in negotiations, and probably hurt him imo...
 

It is one of the most famous tabloid magazines in the world.
 

It happened. He said it; Let me google that for you.
 
Sherman123 said:
It is one of the most famous tabloid magazines in the world.
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Did not know that, but it does seem to be the source of the story in english (or maybe the telegraph) which as @beaudreaux said was picked up by multiple other MM news sources. So are you saying he did not (I would agree with you if you did, that's kinda my whole point...)
 
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b_dubz said:
That's my point isn't it. He did not say it in public. Their is no record of him saying. Just other ppl with a vested interest in making him look crazy saying he did.a
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That's what's great about the human mind. Think and believe what you wish to think and believe. It doesn't matter to me if he said it or not. Even if he did, which I have no problem believing that he would say such a thing, it would only be him posturing.
 
Mexico could invade America within two days.

Wait a sec...

Just been informed they already have.

Never mind.
 
But what would be the point? It would only hurt his position at the negotiating table, he didn't say it in public so it doesn't really make him look strong to the Russian populace, which does not matter because he stole his elections... So why would he do it?
 
Putin has already threatened in public during the NATO summit that he would use his nukes on the west as well as take Kiev in two weeks. It's quite clear Putin will always be on an offensive war footing--just as it is clear the Putin apologists will be out in force across the world .
 
No ones apologizing for Putin. I'm interested in fact. I was one of the first ppl to realize he had troupes on the ground in Ukraine, as did anyone else that watched vices Russian roulette coverage as it came out.

He also (to my knowledge) never threatened nukes on the west directly. He talked about Russia's enemy's and nuclear defense systems. This was a indirect threat.

Talking about invading Ukraine is one thing. Talking about invading members of the EU and NATO is a whole different pig, and a obvious way to start wwIII. big difference...
 
APACHERAT said:
Mexico could invade America within two days.

Wait a sec...

Just been informed they already have.

Never mind.
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Just popping in for a lil' Mexican hate are we?
 

It's not shocking. It's a well known fact that Vladimir Putin (Former KGB Master Spy) has longed for the grand ole days of the Soviet Union. This is the same guy who stated that the fall of the Soviet Union was "one of the great tragedies of the 20th century." He even made specific reference to the breaking up of territories. If he thought he could get away with it, he'd carry out the threats.

Montecresto said:
Can't see that the claim is substantiated in the link. And yes, it would be clearly a ridiculous notion.
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You would be the first one to jump to Putin's defense...


Whether or not it was originally meant as a boast, there's no way that those countries that he talked about didn't take it as a threat, and considering his history, it's one they should take seriously.


Bottom line, Putin knows he can get away with just about anything at this point. Honestly, how far could he push before we'd be forced to respond? I don't think Europe or America is going to go to war over Kiev or even Baltic NATO allies.
 
Hamster Buddha said:
Bottom line, Putin knows he can get away with just about anything at this point. Honestly, how far could he push before we'd be forced to respond? I don't think Europe or America is going to go to war over Kiev or even Baltic NATO allies.
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I disagree. What he did in Ukraine is about the same as what we did in Iraq. He invaded a sovereign nation that had no plans to attack him. Same as Iraq.

As for NATO alliances and mutual defense agreements, you can bet your bottom dollar that if he attacked a NATO member that NATO would be forced to respond. It would breach many contracts and mutual defense agreements to do nothing...
 
ecofarm said:
Just popping in for a lil' Mexican hate are we?
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The National Reconnaissance Office reported that there were 20,000 taco trucks conducting maneuvers out in the Mexican Sonoran Desert.

Should we be concerned ?
 



Here's what I think....Bull. ****.


In the world of reporting allegedly often mean "I made it up to sound important" and in dealing with an internet blog referring to themselves as "viral news" there is no 'often' in there.

Does anyone think Putin is as stupid as Obama and tell his enemies what he intends to do?
 
APACHERAT said:
The National Reconnaissance Office reported that there were 20,000 taco trucks conducting maneuvers out in the Mexican Sonoran Desert.

Should we be concerned ?
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Meh, you could handle half that division alone.
 

Really now! Can you prove he threatened WW3?
 

Patronizing Americans absolutely WILL NOT acknowledge such wrong doing, when pointing out a perceived wrong doing by others.
 
APACHERAT said:
The National Reconnaissance Office reported that there were 20,000 taco trucks conducting maneuvers out in the Mexican Sonoran Desert.

Should we be concerned ?
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Meanwhile Canada is conducting a massive boy scout gathering disguised as a Caribou hunt.

Man the barricades!
 



And I have to disagree with the comparison to Iraq.

I missed the part where Iraqi's have a historical connection to American way of life and culture, identify as "American" as was the case in Crimea/Ukraine.

Further, Putin DID have a right to feel threatened, the CIA had stirred up **** in Kyiv and forced an illegal regime change; he had warned Bush that if the US tried to mess with Ukraine he "would tear her apart"...and now that the US did, he has.

The comparison the Russians make is that if they had created havoc in a Canadian government,. forced a change to a pro-Russian administration and Canada was intending to leave NATO, of course the UIS would send in tanks, and planes, and yes, "boots on the ground" as the US would become very damn concerned about "the longest undefended border in the world."
 
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