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Putin’s Latest Obsession: A New World War II Narrative

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Putin’s Latest Obsession: A New World War II Narrative


Putin with Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu.


The reality is Mr. Putin, Russia willingly joined with Nazi Germany in 1939 to carve up and subjugate Poland and the Baltic States.

Operation Barbarossa doesn't erase that despicable and bloody chapter of Russia's history.
 

I wonder if it ever occurred to Putin to leave the past lie and concentrate on building good will in the present.
 
I wonder if it ever occurred to Putin to leave the past lie and concentrate on building good will in the present.

No. Putin is ex-KGB. He characterizes the fall of the Soviet Union as the greatest catastrophe to ever befall Russia. He longs for a return to the Soviet Empire.

With Putin, tangible results are more important than Western perceptions (pariah state).

Ergo, his wars against Ukraine (a former possession of the Soviet Empire) and Syria (to make Russia a ME player again like it was before the disaster of the Six Day War).
 

Eh, this is really not that new of an idea. The Russians, just like the Soviets before, long maintained that their non-aggression pact was a necessary strategic move in light of the Munich Agreement. Putin's latest commentary doesn't seem to divulge from that too much, it's just now social media gives it a new platform to speak about it.
 

True enough. But regardless of its heritage, this narrative must still be challenged.

Especially today, when too many people allow trolls to do their thinking on social media.
 

The reality is that many people in Eastern Europe happily joined with the Nazis to try to exterminate their local Jewish populations.

Not only that, but many of those folks are now heralded as “heroes” because they used anti communism to justify their genocidal actions.
 
As I was saying about trolls.
 


Left: The German and Russian Nazis carving up Poland and the Baltic States in 1939.
Right: The Russian Nazi who wants to do so again today.
 


Left: The German and Russian Nazis carving up Poland and the Baltic States in 1939.
Right: The Russian Nazi who wants to do so again today.


Provide evidence of Putin planning to invade Poland.

14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) - Wikipedia

“ The 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) is today honored by many Ukrainian nationalists.[58] Since 2010 every year on April 28 a march is held to celebrate the foundation of the division.[59] In addition streets were named after the division in Ivano-Frankivsk (Ukrains`koi Dyvizii Street) and Ternopil (Soldiers Division "Galicia" Street).[60] ”

“ The German Operation Barbarossa of 1941 brought together native Ukrainians of the Soviet Ukraine, and the prewar territories of Poland annexed by the Soviet Union as well. To the north-east, they fell under the German administrative control of Reichskommissariat Ukraine; and to the south-west, under the Nazi General Government. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) volunteered to assist the Wehrmacht.[3] In total, the Germans enlisted 250,000 native Ukrainians for duty in five separate formations including the Nationalist Military Detachments (VVN), the Brotherhoods of Ukrainian Nationalists (DUN), the Galician Division of the Waffen SS, the Ukrainian Liberation Army (UVV), and the Ukrainian National Army (Ukrainische Nationalarmee, UNA).[3][11] By the end of 1942, in Reichskommissariat Ukraine alone, the SS employed 238,000 Ukrainians and only 15,000 Germans at a ratio of 1 to 16.[12]

Holocaust in Reichskommissariat Ukraine: the map
The atrocities against the Jewish population during the Holocaust in Ukraine started within a few days of the beginning of the Nazi occupation. There are indications that the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police, formed on 20 August 1941,[13] was used in the round-up of Jews for the Babi Yar massacre,[14][15] and in other massacres in cities and towns of modern-day Ukraine, such as Stepan,[16] Lviv, Lutsk, and Zhytomyr.[17] On 1 September 1941, Nazi-sponsored Ukrainian newspaper Volhyn wrote: "The element that settled our cities (Jews)... must disappear completely from our cities. The Jewish problem is already in the process of being solved."[18]
Reinforced through religious prejudice, anti-Semitism had turned violent in the first days of the German attack on the Soviet Union. Some Ukrainians derived nationalist resentment from the belief that the Jews had worked for Polish landlords.[19] The NKVD prisoner massacres by the Soviet secret police retreating eastward were blamed on the Jews. Antisemitic canard of Jewish Bolshevism provided justification for the revenge killings by the ultra-nationalist Ukrainian People's Militia which accompanied German Einsatzgruppen moving east.[19] In Boryslav (prewar Borysław, Poland, with population 41,500), the SS commander gave an enraged crowd – who had seen bodies of men murdered by NKVD and laid out in the town square – 24 hours to act as they wished against the Polish Jews; they were forced to clean the dead bodies, to dance, and then killed by beating with axes, pipes, etc. The same type of mass murders took place in Brzezany. During Lviv pogroms, some 7,000 Jews were murdered by Ukrainian nationalists led by People's Militia.[19][20][21] As late as 1945, Ukrainian militants were still rounding up and murdering Jews.[22]”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany#SS_Division_"Galizien"
 


Left: The German and Russian Nazis carving up Poland and the Baltic States in 1939.
Right: The Russian Nazi who wants to do so again today.
 


Left: The German and Russian Nazis carving up Poland and the Baltic States in 1939.
Right: The Russian Nazi who wants to do so again today.

Provide evidence of Putin planning to invade Poland.

14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) - Wikipedia

“ The 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) is today honored by many Ukrainian nationalists.[58] Since 2010 every year on April 28 a march is held to celebrate the foundation of the division.[59] In addition streets were named after the division in Ivano-Frankivsk (Ukrains`koi Dyvizii Street) and Ternopil (Soldiers Division "Galicia" Street).[60] ”

“ The German Operation Barbarossa of 1941 brought together native Ukrainians of the Soviet Ukraine, and the prewar territories of Poland annexed by the Soviet Union as well. To the north-east, they fell under the German administrative control of Reichskommissariat Ukraine; and to the south-west, under the Nazi General Government. The Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) volunteered to assist the Wehrmacht.[3] In total, the Germans enlisted 250,000 native Ukrainians for duty in five separate formations including the Nationalist Military Detachments (VVN), the Brotherhoods of Ukrainian Nationalists (DUN), the Galician Division of the Waffen SS, the Ukrainian Liberation Army (UVV), and the Ukrainian National Army (Ukrainische Nationalarmee, UNA).[3][11] By the end of 1942, in Reichskommissariat Ukraine alone, the SS employed 238,000 Ukrainians and only 15,000 Germans at a ratio of 1 to 16.[12]

Holocaust in Reichskommissariat Ukraine: the map
The atrocities against the Jewish population during the Holocaust in Ukraine started within a few days of the beginning of the Nazi occupation. There are indications that the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police, formed on 20 August 1941,[13] was used in the round-up of Jews for the Babi Yar massacre,[14][15] and in other massacres in cities and towns of modern-day Ukraine, such as Stepan,[16] Lviv, Lutsk, and Zhytomyr.[17] On 1 September 1941, Nazi-sponsored Ukrainian newspaper Volhyn wrote: "The element that settled our cities (Jews)... must disappear completely from our cities. The Jewish problem is already in the process of being solved."[18]
Reinforced through religious prejudice, anti-Semitism had turned violent in the first days of the German attack on the Soviet Union. Some Ukrainians derived nationalist resentment from the belief that the Jews had worked for Polish landlords.[19] The NKVD prisoner massacres by the Soviet secret police retreating eastward were blamed on the Jews. Antisemitic canard of Jewish Bolshevism provided justification for the revenge killings by the ultra-nationalist Ukrainian People's Militia which accompanied German Einsatzgruppen moving east.[19] In Boryslav (prewar Borysław, Poland, with population 41,500), the SS commander gave an enraged crowd – who had seen bodies of men murdered by NKVD and laid out in the town square – 24 hours to act as they wished against the Polish Jews; they were forced to clean the dead bodies, to dance, and then killed by beating with axes, pipes, etc. The same type of mass murders took place in Brzezany. During Lviv pogroms, some 7,000 Jews were murdered by Ukrainian nationalists led by People's Militia.[19][20][21] As late as 1945, Ukrainian militants were still rounding up and murdering Jews.[22]”

Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany - Wikipedia ion_"Galizien"
 

If Poland tries to go to war over Belarus it is going to find itself rather abruptly on its own.

NATO is not an alliance for promoting wars of aggression based on racial delusions about “Asiatic hordes”.

Saber rattling about meaningless Arctic islands is not the equivalent to invading Norway....which is not Poland.

And no, the US is not going to go to war over Kazakhstan
 
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