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Prosecutors Investigating Michael Cohen for Possible Illegal Lobbying

poweRob

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Prosecutors Investigating Michael Cohen for Possible Illegal Lobbying
Manhattan prosecutors have contacted AT&T, Novartis over dealings with Donald Trump’s lawyer

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether Michael Cohen, the longtime personal lawyer for Donald Trump, illegally engaged in secret lobbying, people familiar with the investigation said, as part of the government’s broader probe into Mr. Cohen’s business dealings.

In the course of that investigation, the prosecutors have contacted companies that hired Mr. Cohen as a consultant after Mr. Trump won the 2016 presidential election, including AT&T Inc. and Novartis AG , according to other people familiar with the matter. The companies paid a total of about $1.8 million to Mr. Cohen in 2017 and early 2018 for his insights into the Trump administration.​
 



Cohen should not have a problem paying his legal bills.........I read Cohen put the squeeze on companies to the tune of over $4 mil.
 
Rexedgar said:
Cohen should not have a problem paying his legal bills.........I read Cohen put the squeeze on companies to the tune of over $4 mil.
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You're assuming he kept all that money and didn't pass it on...

Also, even if he did keep it, I'm sure those assets would be frozen, not to mention his legal fees are probably in excess of $4 mil.
 
Rexedgar said:
Cohen should not have a problem paying his legal bills.........I read Cohen put the squeeze on companies to the tune of over $4 mil.
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But his bills up to this point I heard were getting to what could be around $100,000 a week.
 
Slyfox696 said:
You're assuming he kept all that money and didn't pass it on...

Also, even if he did keep it, I'm sure those assets would be frozen, not to mention his legal fees are probably in excess of $4 mil.
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Or most likely off-shored and hidden from what may happen to him. So there's a nest egg when it's over.
 
Slyfox696 said:
You're assuming he kept all that money and didn't pass it on...

Also, even if he did keep it, I'm sure those assets would be frozen, not to mention his legal fees are probably in excess of $4 mil.
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Haven’t I read that you are a barrister?
poweRob said:
But his bills up to this point I heard were getting to what could be around $100,000 a week.
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What does a client get for 100K a week?
 
Rexedgar said:
Haven’t I read that you are a barrister?


What does a client get for 100K a week?
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15 or 16 high-priced lawyers working around the clock trying to beat last friday's deadline.
 
Apparently, this stuff was being investigated by Mueller as long ago as last year. Though I'm not sure if actual prosecutors contacting the firms is something new.

Regardless, I figure Cohen will likely be the next indictment to drop, and I think it will be soon.
 
poweRob said:
Or most likely off-shored and hidden from what may happen to him. So there's a nest egg when it's over.
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Perhaps. But if true, he can't dare access it now. And it's very possible overseas funds will be confiscated as restitution, as will surely be done with Manafort.
 

Most likely. Another indictment and no closer to collusion.
 
Rexedgar said:
Haven’t I read that you are a barrister?


What does a client get for 100K a week?
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A dozen lawyers or more, at 600 bucks an hour, working nearly around the clock seven days a week, trying to sort through over 3M pages of documents by tomorrow.

Avenatti claims the costs could be as high as pushing a 1/2 mil a week, which theoretically works out when crunching the numbers to the max, but I suspect the billing is more in the lower to lower-mid six figure range.
 
poweRob said:
15 or 16 high-priced lawyers working around the clock trying to beat last friday's deadline.
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At Manhattan billing rates for federal criminal defense, I wouldn't doubt if it is over 100K/week if they're really working around the clock 24/7.

15 x 400-600/hr = 6-9K per hour. That's 60-90K alone, for a single 10 hour day.

Unless the docs are being looked at by non-attorneys, para-legals, or other non-lawyer personnel.
 
hanger4 said:
Most likely. Another indictment and no closer to collusion.
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Well, no collusion that we're aware of. Only Mueller knows. Their may be conspiracy or other crimes, too.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If Cohen agrees to cooperate with federal investigators, more evidence will come to light from trump’s fixer.
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Just because Cohen's cooperating doesn't mean he's flipping on Trump.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If Cohen agrees to cooperate with federal investigators, more evidence will come to light from trump’s fixer.
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While Manafort may be dangerous to Trump, I believe Cohen may pose the greater danger. Cohen is Trump's fixer, as you stated, but he also is the nexus between Trump and the Russian Oligarch underworld.
 
hanger4 said:
Just because Cohen's cooperating doesn't mean he's flipping on Trump.
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Cohen has been one of trump’s inner circle for a long time, and whatever important information he has is going to affect trump directly. What obligation is Cohen under to go to jail just to protect trump?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Cohen has been one of trump’s inner circle for a long time, and whatever important information he has is going to affect trump directly. What obligation is Cohen under to go to jail just to protect trump?
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You're assuming quite a bit there Unitedwestand13.
 

$600 an hour is for the associates. And that’s probably low. A couple thousand a billable hour for the partners...and you know they’re billing liberally.
 

Well I'm sure they aren't doing crack to stay awake so they'd have to sleep but 15 lawyers working around the clock on it in shifts.
 
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