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Proof of bombs used and evidence hid 9/11


You're serious, right??
1 - The debris falling outward from the building would of course fall faster than the collapsing structure... we're talking wind resistance vs structural resistance. In other words : Concrete slows things down more than air does.

2 - I was NOT saying that the building collapsed at free-fall speed... actually, I remember saying to take the time of free-fall (which is calculated at 9.something seconds if you do NOT take into account air resistance)

3 - Even in a controlled demolition the building does NOT fall at free-fall speed, but rather falls at free-fall - (minus) resistance... because even though explosives blow out the support structure of the building there is still resistance to collapse.

4 - I'm frustrated because even after explaining this a million times you're still missing the point.


Yes... And do you realize that this "literally incomprehensible amounts of kinetic energy" by definition is taken OUT OF the only force that we are meant to believe was acting on the collapse, that force being gravity (9.8m/s^2)... And with ALL that "literally incomprehensible amounts of kinetic energy" we saw a 12 second collapse time which IS about 3 seconds worth of drag compared to dropping a ball the same height in a vacuum offering 0 fall resistance.


How am I supposed to get a point across when you are mixing different interpretations of free-fall. You are mixing
a) free-falling collapse of a building
b) free-falling object through air,
and then tell us that we're claiming the building collapsed at
c) free-fall where resistance = 0

what you gotta get is that
a) free-falling collapse of a building in a controlled demolition is in the 60-70% of free-fall
b) an object falling through air could see a speed of about 95-98% of free-fall (obvious exceptions excluded)
c) an object falling at 9.8m/s^2

Once you catch the subtlety of these different uses of a 'free-falling' object you'll see my point alot easier.
 
creativedreams said:
So in other words when subjects are over your head you try and compensate with funny "one liners".?

If you can't dazzle 'em with your knowledge....
Baffle 'em with your bullsh**....

No surprise.
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Over my head? Dude, that is some pretty funny ****! :lol:
 

Oh, my mistake. I thought I was talking to the mcfly that is always talking about THIS type of "free fall speed":

BmanMcfly said:
What makes you think that 80 stories of concrete and steel in an UNTOUCHED structure should offer only slightly more resistance than dropping an 8 ball that same height THROUGH A VACUUM WITH NO FRICTION???
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Silly me for thinking that statements like "near free fall speed" means that an object falls at a rate that approaches free fall speed. Kinda like what some folks propose would happen when the supports of a building are either melted, blown up, or otherwise not doing their job of supporting.

So just to review, does this here sum it up pretty well there mcfly?

1. You attempt to convince us all that there HAD to be controlled demo because the building fell so fast that it was approaching the speed of free fall IN A VACUUM!

2. Because of this irrefutable evidence, there is just no other explanation other than demo.

3. Later, when shown a plain and simple image showing that freefall was really twice as quick as the collapse, you revise the theory to "free-fall-but-not-really-only-kinda"?

4? Still no other option other than demo?

:shock:
 
If demolition was done, wouldn't OBL be crowing about it? I mean, he had to have known, else how could he send the planes to crash into the buildings at the same time the explosives went off? Or was there a "volunteer" on top of the building at the controls, setting them off at the same time the planes arrived?
The whole idea is ludicrous....but people will make money from it. There will always be crackpots writing books for the tinfoil crowd....
 
For some people, it's easier to believe the "evil government" did this then to believe that it was a handful of lunatic islamic terrorist.

They believe this for whatever personal reasons, the prime reason I think many of these folks believe in these, silly theories is that it makes them feel special.

"I can see the truth, I KNOW! And you people are too stupid to know it!"
 

Good point, MrV......
 
This is not evidence. You can throw your opinion and unsourced facts around, but do not expect us to take you seriously.
 
Pull My Finger said:
The Manhattan Project employed over 100,000. Two billion was spent, and there were multiple production, research, and test sites. It remained a conspiracy theory until the government announced it…
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Most people involved were doing so for national security and to gain an upper hand on the Axis. This did not involve the deaths of thousands of Americans and an elaborate cover up blamed on terrorists.

Area 51 wasn’t officially announced until 1997. It maintained its own daily commuter plane service out of
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Las Vegas for its thousands of workers. It remained a conspiracy theory until it was officially announced…
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Again, does not involve the deaths of thousands of citizens.
 
I really would like to know where Cheney was when the buildings fell. I would really like to know.
 

All of these people were carefully screened employees given security clearances. We are talking about passengers on a commuter plane with families elsewhere.

What happened to them then? Sorry but the whole evil government conspiracy is a bunch of bull**** when you take everything into account.
 
I'm very frustrated with 9/11 conspiracy theories...

From the libertarian point of view, the guilt of the U.S. government is beyond any doubt - the government has forcefully monopolized the security market, and used that power to carry out all sorts of foreign interventionism, while at the same time outlawing individual self-defense, leaving the public helpless and dependent.

In absence of this government monopoly, the American people wouldn't be affected by the "blowback" of everything our government has been doing in the Middle East. And without the government forcing its regulations down everyone's throats, the airlines would exercise their natural interest to implement rational physical security policies in airplane cockpits, like at the very least allowing the pilots to be armed with specialized aircraft-safe weapons. Then a scenario like 9/11 would have been a total logistical impossibility.

It's as if the U.S. government had handcuffed the victims of 9/11, broke their legs, left them in a dark ally, and told Osama where they can be found and that they've been talking trash about his momma! :x

And yet the 9/11 conspiracy nuts make up all sorts of baseless bull to try to implicate the U.S. government, while failing to focus on the most obvious.
 
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Here is recent news footage that just came out in Denmark!

Nine scientists find active Nano-Thermite in the 9/11 WTC dust

I bet you won't here about any of this in American mainstream media...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5IOD17gN8]YouTube - Nine Scientists Find Active Nano-thermite in 9/11 WTC Dust -- April 6, 2009[/ame]
 

You are right, you won't hear such in the US media...

creative, what are airplanes primarily made from?

what is the base metal in thermite?


ZOMG SOME SCIENTIST FOUND SEVERAL TONS OF ALUMINUM PARTICULATE MATTER IN THE WTC RUBBLE? NO FREAKING WAY DUDE!

Seriously, this "story" cracked me the hell up. These so called scientist found pulverized aluminum residue "nano-thermite!!!!!!" and concluded it was preset explosives.


Really? Seriously? The thought that perhaps slamming airliners into the building woudnt produce a few tons of pulverized aluminum didn't cross their minds? Or yours? Seriously?
 
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Denial is a natural instinct to protect weak minds.........the weaker the mind the stronger the denial. How can you believe your own spin on the matter?
 
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So your agueing against scientists who clearly explain what Nano-Thermites is and how it is undenyable evidence? (oh that's right...a few ignorant patriots here will deny it)

This was shown on Denmarks Pime Time Television. They have spent years investigating and made sure all their ducks were in a row before they went public with it (last month)
 

You failed to answer the question set before Creative, where are all the people on those planes. There were women and children aboard as well, where are they prison? Gimme a freakin break.

Maybe the UFOs caused 9/11 as well. You are right about a weak mind believing idiotic things though, just look at all those weak minded people believing 9/11 was done by the government.
 

Perhaps they were on the planes but Homing Devices and/or Remote flying devices controlled their destiny.

Losing lives is only a numbers game, especially in wars, and likely in sacrificing pawns too.
 
Both Twin Towers went through an extensive "fireproofing upgrade" of the steel support structures of exactly 30 floors each in 1999-2000
9/11 is very likely to have taken years of planning no matter who orchestrated it...

This would have been a perfect time to rig all the structure

Perhaps the Nano-Thermite was sprayed on and actually in the fireproofing in which was applied 1 1/2" thick (building code is only 7/8")

FEMA stated in their inspection reports that they could not find the specifications for the type of fireproofing used

I believe their is a possible connection to the video below

This is a very recent News Cast in Denmark...this was aired on Prime Time Television in Denmark...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5IOD17gN8]YouTube - Nine Scientists Find Active Nano-thermite in 9/11 WTC Dust -- April 6, 2009[/ame]
 
Originally Posted by creativedreams
This was shown on Denmarks Pime Time Television. They have spent years investigating and made sure all their ducks were in a row before they went public with it (last month)
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Denmarks Pime Time Television? Geraldo Rivera spent years investigating things and used to be on Prime Time Television... that phrase means nothing.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Denmarks Pime Time Television? Geraldo Rivera spent years investigating things and used to be on Prime Time Television... that phrase means nothing.
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This is evidence that these scientists have spent a lot of time getting their ducks in a row on before going public.

Perhaps the citizens of Denmark have a different view on Prime Time News than Ego Inflated Americans do?
 
creativedreams said:
This is evidence that these scientists have spent a lot of time getting their ducks in a row on before going public.

Perhaps the citizens of Denmark have a different view on Prime Time News than Ego Inflated Americans do?
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Perhaps... but I would have to see it in order to determine its quality.
 
creativedreams said:
Perhaps they were on the planes but Homing Devices and/or Remote flying devices controlled their destiny.
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Perhaps they were teleported to the 5th dimension. See how stupid that sounds? Because it's an unsubstantiated hypothesis based on no evidence... Kind of like most of your arguments.
 
Agh-h-h-h-h-h-h................shya-a-a-d up!!
 
creativedreams said:
Perhaps they were on the planes but Homing Devices and/or Remote flying devices controlled their destiny.

Losing lives is only a numbers game, especially in wars, and likely in sacrificing pawns too.
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Perhaps, terrorists flew the planes into the buildings and the buildings collapsed because of it.
 
TheNextEra said:
Perhaps, terrorists flew the planes into the buildings and the buildings collapsed because of it.
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Perhaps you are right and they just happened to do it on a day when in the first time in the history of the United States a political figure just happened to be at NORAD and making command decisions instead of the normal commanders how are usually in control.

And two planes just happend to desroy ALL 7 World Trade Center Buildings

BWAHAAHAAHAA!
 
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