The fetus models were not in a womb model.
I am not afraid of the model fetuses and for all we know that might not really be the issue.
Perhaps the pamphlets they wanted to hand out during lunch was the real issue.
I don't know what the principal found objectionable but he is the principal of the school.
If the pro life group was unhappy with the decision they were welcome to take their case to the school board or the superintendent.
Who cares if the baby model wasn't displayed in a model of the womb....It was a 'life sized' depiction....
The article mentions nothing else about the display they wanted to set up, but they do mention the life sized model. So I think it was the issue, for what reason I don't know.
What pamphlets? Do you have specific knowledge of pamphlets being handed out? I didn't see that in the article posted.
So you don't really know what the principle objected to, but you agree with shutting down pro life groups so you automatically jump on his bandwagon blindly....
Read the article. They are objecting the decision.
“He tells us that this topic in particular is too controversial to be talked about in public school she explained to WWLP.
Samantha, founder of Students for Life Club, stated that other high school clubs have had no problem setting up their tables during lunch.
“They had information about what their club does and what they have done in the past and they have pictures and they have poster boards just like ours, except for with different content on it,” she told WWLP.
I did read the article.
According to the article the high school student who founded a pro-life club said the principal banned her group from using life-sized fetus models as displays.
But apparently according to the article he did not specifically mention the life-sized fetus models.
She mentioned that her group had poster boards like other clubs except with different content.
She also mentioned other groups had pictures.
Therefore based on that info posted in article I stated I was not sure it was the life sized fetus models the principal objected to.
He just stated the topic itself was too controversial.
Generally Public schools are not considered free speech zones while school is in session.
Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus Models « CBS Connecticut
It's right there in your article title.
The article is the article you posted. The high school student claimed that was the reason but according to the article the principal just said the "topic in particular was too controversial to be talked about in public school ".
The principal used the word topic .
As long as the reproductive choice club gets to display life size models of birth control pills and birth control devices such as condoms, the sponge, IUDs etc.
and the anti smokers club gets to display a life size model of a blackened smokers lung during lunch
and the vegan club gets to display life sized models of butchered animals during lunch
I have no problem with the life sized fetus models .
But then I guess high school lunches will no longer be a time to enjoy a little food and a little relaxation with friends during the mid day between classes.
Is there even such a thing? But, informatively speaking, I wouldn't have a problem with that in an equal time setting.
So you liken a baby in the womb to blackened smokers lung disease eh? nice....
There are high school NOW clubs in our area which include reproductive choice.
No ,I was not comparing a fetus to a smokers lung I was comparing displaying models that some may find disturbing ( I personally do not have a problem with life size embryo/ fetus models as long as they physically look like the development at that stage ).
Public Schools are not free speech zone during school hours.
Religious and political clubs can meet and set up displays in the school after school hours.
No, they are not true free speech zones, but neither can administrators force students to give up first amendment rights simply because the administrator does not like the message. He / she must prove the speech is disruptive or obscene.Public Schools are not free speech zone during school hours.
No, they are not true free speech zones, but neither can administrators force students to give up first amendment rights simply because the administrator does not like the message. He / she must prove the speech is disruptive or obscene.
The precedent SCOTUS case of Tinker vs Des Moines allowed student to wear black armbands in protest of the Vietnam war.
But... these student want to set up a semi permanent display to express their first amendement rights. Is this different than saying.... "we want to wear pro life or NOW t-shirts"?
My bet is that in the end, the courts are going to give the principal leeway, even if he might be biased and simply does not like pro life speech. The courts aleady have to devote energy to deciding what is or not obscene. I dont think they want to also get involved in "socio political group "A" gets to have a bigger display, gets a prime location, can fund a cooler display etc. than we can...
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My bet is that in the end, the courts are going to give the principal leeway, even if he might be biased and simply does not like pro life speech. The courts aleady have to devote energy to deciding what is or not obscene. I dont think they want to also get involved in "socio political group "A" gets to have a bigger display, gets a prime location, can fund a cooler display etc. than we can...
If does go to court what is more likely to happen is that no clubs will be able to have displays during school hours in public schools nation wide.
I highly doubt this case will even go to court.
If it does I think the court will not find a first amendment rights violation.
If does go to court what is more likely to happen is that no clubs will be able to have displays during school hours in public schools nation wide.
If that were to be the case, and this is speculation to start with, I also doubt this will be a court case, unless there are further unfair hurdles ongoing to this club, but if this were to happen wouldn't that be a shame that the obviously pro choice principle would ruin it for everyone just to curtail having to allow equal treatment to this one group?
Because religious and political groups should not be endorsed by public schools.
If was a reproductive choice club or a Christian Club, a Muslim Club, a Jehovah's Witness club , I would feel the same.
Political and Religious clubs are not school/subject related clubs like the drama club, French club, history club, etc.
So much for advocating critical thought in our education system...Tell me Minnie, do you also object to Christmas carols being performed at the Christmas pageant?
Well, our public schools do not have Christmas pageants or even Christmas concerts.
They have holiday concerts where a variety of holiday ( non religious ) songs are sung.
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