Prescient prophecy about the rise ofTrumpism from an American philosopher

[SheWolf]

Middle class Americans got a massive tax cut by the doubling of the standard deduction and increase in the child tax credit. Was it a perfect bill? By no means. I'm sure you would rather have had a single payer healthcare system, but you weren't going to slam Obama over the Affordable Care Act.

You have to understand what middle class Americans are upset about and why they voted for Trump. If you can't figure it out, then watch as Democrats continue to lose elections and the GOP turns significantly right.

The tax benefits for the middle class expire. Wall Street is filling their pockets, not you and me.

 

[SheWolf]

Discrimination is up close and in the moment for anyone who experiences it.

Whites, Asians, Jews, and blacks all know what it is like.

To say that white people are not eligible to experience discrimination is naive at best.

I don't think a white person can experience it based on their race in a situation where white people are majority. When white people talk about discrimination in American society, it's mostly based on arguments like Affirmative Action is wrong. That's a lot different from what I can say a Muslim can experience in American society. I don't think the majority of white Americans could even relate.

 

[ataraxia]

I don't think a white person can experience it based on their race in a situation where white people are majority. When white people talk about discrimination in American society, it's mostly based on arguments like Affirmative Action is wrong. That's a lot different from what I can say a Muslim can experience in American society. I don't think the majority of white Americans could even relate.

Yes. You really can see how out of touch they are when they compare affirmative action to centuries of systematic generational chattel slavery. It’s ridiculous.

 

[phattonez]

The tax benefits for the middle class expire. Wall Street is filling their pockets, not you and me.

Which is among the reasons why I said it's not perfect.

 

[Port & Starboard]

I don't think a white person can experience it based on their race in a situation where white people are majority. When white people talk about discrimination in American society, it's mostly based on arguments like Affirmative Action is wrong. That's a lot different from what I can say a Muslim can experience in American society. I don't think the majority of white Americans could even relate.

Oh really?

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[D_NATURED]

Middle class Americans got a massive tax cut by the doubling of the standard deduction and increase in the child tax credit. Was it a perfect bill? By no means. I'm sure you would rather have had a single payer healthcare system, but you weren't going to slam Obama over the Affordable Care Act.

The ACA was not the end game. It was what could be achieved at the time. It was a step in the right direction of getting a handle on healthcare costs. Furthermore, it remains to be seen if I get a "massive" tax cut. With this extremely irresponsible tax plan comes a much increased risk, as the conservatives have done the massive tax cut thing before and it always creates a bubble to bust and massive, yes really massive, debt.

Personally, I'm tired of being treated by the GOP as if we are all idiots. It's not like we haven't documented the result of their policies in the past. Why must people continue to pretend they don't crash the economy EVERY time they do this ****?

Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump were all disciples of a right-wing obsession with taxes, as they represent the most effective way that governments exercise control over the various industries permitted to operate within the market created by our laws. The government is WE, the people of the United States, but the moneyed interests are international and have no allegiance to any ideal or morality over their own aggrandizing wealth.

This massive tax cut will most certainly manifest as massive misery for many who can't just be happy that the self-proclaimed productive are doing well.

You have to understand what middle class Americans are upset about and why they voted for Trump. If you can't figure it out, then watch as Democrats continue to lose elections and the GOP turns significantly right.

I know what you mean when you say "middle class". You mean white people who have been fed such a load of BS that they can't think rationally any more. They have been taught wrongly by the GOP that the government is harmful to them. They have been indoctrinated with the lie that markets can exist without any centralized rules and control, that you can just vote with your dollars. They have been convinced that unions have harmed them more than the culture of wealth worship has.

The GOP may continue to win but, if they do, it's not because of the truth of what they speak, it's because of the effective lies they have crafted, in defense of an idea, a horribly immoral idea called limitless wealth.

 

[phattonez]

The ACA was not the end game. It was what could be achieved at the time. It was a step in the right direction of getting a handle on healthcare costs. Furthermore, it remains to be seen if I get a "massive" tax cut. With this extremely irresponsible tax plan comes a much increased risk, as the conservatives have done the massive tax cut thing before and it always creates a bubble to bust and massive, yes really massive, debt.

Personally, I'm tired of being treated by the GOP as if we are all idiots. It's not like we haven't documented the result of their policies in the past. Why must people continue to pretend they don't crash the economy EVERY time they do this ****?

Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump were all disciples of a right-wing obsession with taxes, as they represent the most effective way that governments exercise control over the various industries permitted to operate within the market created by our laws. The government is WE, the people of the United States, but the moneyed interests are international and have no allegiance to any ideal or morality over their own aggrandizing wealth.

This massive tax cut will most certainly manifest as massive misery for many who can't just be happy that the self-proclaimed productive are doing well.

Or maybe it's really just as simple as the fact that the middle class is getting a massive tax cut and they're happy to keep more of their money.

I know what you mean when you say "middle class". You mean white people who have been fed such a load of BS that they can't think rationally any more. They have been taught wrongly by the GOP that the government is harmful to them. They have been indoctrinated with the lie that markets can exist without any centralized rules and control, that you can just vote with your dollars. They have been convinced that unions have harmed them more than the culture of wealth worship has.

The GOP may continue to win but, if they do, it's not because of the truth of what they speak, it's because of the effective lies they have crafted, in defense of an idea, a horribly immoral idea called limitless wealth.

How do whites prosper in the face of massive immigration to drive down wages, outsourcing, affirmative action, diversity quotas, and the like? You tell me how I'm wrong about all of this and that actually Democrats love whites.