Pre-term delivery

[Jason Warfield]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

 

[MamboDervish]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

The misogynist right-wing-nuts have no interests in the child at all, other than so far as to control the life of the mother up until delivery. After that date, what once was an oh-so-precious ZEF ceases to have any value whatsoever to the self-righteous anti-choice gangsters.

 

[btthegreat]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

We already absorb the costs for medical needs either via higher costs passed on or through taxes based on economic hardship . That's the nature of our current system. I know I don't mind.

 

[Gordy327]

We already absorb the costs for medical needs either via higher costs passed on or through taxes based on economic hardship . That's the nature of our current system. I know I don't mind.

As far as costs go, abortion is far cheaper than gestation, birth, or rearing, for both parent/s and society.

 

[Lursa]

As far as costs go, abortion is far cheaper than gestation, birth, or rearing, for both parent/s and society.

Absolutely

 

[Lursa]

We already absorb the costs for medical needs either via higher costs passed on or through taxes based on economic hardship . That's the nature of our current system. I know I don't mind.

Fine but why pay it at all if the woman wants to choose abortion? Why deny women abortions and then take on...or not...additional costs?

That's the hypocrisy of the right...deny women the choice and then bitch and resent having to pay for unaffordable kids or poorly raised ones that "end up in the system", juvie, foster, prison, etc.

And even moreso, many on the right blame most of society's ill on single mothers...you see it constantly in the school shooting and healthcare and minimum wage threads...and are they that stupid or that hypocritical, or both, that they would force women to have kids they cant afford or arent ready for, and then bitch about single mother's?

 

[Atreus21]

As far as costs go, abortion is far cheaper than gestation, birth, or rearing, for both parent/s and society.

It's amazing how cheap and simple things get when killing people is on the table.

 

[Gordy327]

It's amazing how cheap and simple things get when killing people is on the table.

It's no surprise you cannot refute anything I said either.

 

[MamboDervish]

It's amazing how cheap and simple things get when killing people is on the table.

Nobody is "killing people" in abortion.

 

[Bodi]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

Right Wing Conservatives want guns to shoot people and to oppress women into life threatening pregnancy and child birth.

They are pretty much scum.

 

[Teatime]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

I already do.

 

[Boots]

Yes.

 

[Lursa]

I already do.

For the most part, you have no choice. But your response indicates you support creating more such financial and societal costs for everyone, including yourself. Is that true?

 

[Bodi]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

Anti-Choicers don't care about the mother, the baby or caring for any of it... they want to show outrage that others don't buy their bullshit morality as they judge and oppress others, forcing them to not do what is responsible and then say, "hey, you should have thought of that before, have the baby but after that, **** you both"

 

[Bodi]

It's amazing how cheap and simple things get when killing people is on the table.

A blobby blob ob blobbiness is cheap and easy to get rid of, especially if nobody cares about it. You can care for it... raise your hand and adopt it.

 

[weaver2]

For the most part, you have no choice. But your response indicates you support creating more such financial and societal costs for everyone, including yourself. Is that true?

There is another type of support that children need: an attitude toward children that's probably even more important that dollars and cents. That's the public recognition, by all, that children are an important part of society; a concern and care for all children that they are physically and emotionally supported so they have the opportunity to live meaningful and satisfying lives.

 

[trouble13]

As the demand for the child to be born progresses, often those of us have noted that once the child is born, that’s it, no further involvement is needed.

Instead of asking these people if they are willing to pay taxes to help the child with food, shelter and education if needed as a general question, let me ask a specific…

Would you be willing to pay taxes for babies born pre-term to help the family pay for medical costs at birth and medical costs for the future if needed?

I suggest that the child is not at fault for its circumstances. So why punish it by not helping the child after a premature birth?

It's not the taxpayers fault either. Shouldn't the responsibility for its welfare be placed on the parents?

 

[weaver2]

We already absorb the costs for medical needs either via higher costs passed on or through taxes based on economic hardship . That's the nature of our current system. I know I don't mind.

You may not mind but there is a constant stream of complaints from other conservatives about supporting the poor. The women being denied abortion of unplanned children comprise 75% of all women who get abortions. Banning abortion increases welfare costs among the many other unanticipated consequences of banning. The level of intelligence that has created these laws is well below the average IQ of 100. I'd call it at around 75.

Conservatives complain that Democrats don't respect them. Start using some thinking skills in making laws and respect will be given.

 

[Bodi]

There is another type of support that children need: an attitude toward children that's probably even more important that dollars and cents. That's the public recognition, by all, that children are an important part of society; a concern and care for all children that they are physically and emotionally supported so they have the opportunity to live meaningful and satisfying lives.

Eh.

They are not that valued. Society actually functions quite well without kids.
In a lot of ways, kids a strain on society. Nobody misses them when they are not there.

 

[Atreus21]

A blobby blob ob blobbiness is cheap and easy to get rid of, especially if nobody cares about it. You can care for it... raise your hand and adopt it.

Okay, so if it's not a blob, if it looks like this for example.....



...it's not okay to get rid of?

 

[Gordy327]

Okay, so if it's not a blob, if it looks like this for example.....

View attachment 67545514

...it's not okay to get rid of?

Why would it not be ok to get rid of? Because some try to attempt an appeal to emotion or be emotionally manipulative? If the woman doesn't want to gestate, she should be able to "get rid of" it, plain and simple.

 

[Bodi]

Okay, so if it's not a blob, if it looks like this for example.....



...it's not okay to get rid of?

This is what it looks like when most abortions take place

 

[Lursa]

Okay, so if it's not a blob, if it looks like this for example.....

View attachment 67545514

...it's not okay to get rid of?

Sure it is. The question is...when do women choose to 'get rid of it' (in your images) unless there's a medical reason to do so? How about, almost never? To the point that finding data on women aborting viable fetuses for non-medical reasons is almost non-existent. One was a homeless woman living in her car, it took her that long to get the $$ to have it.

So...what's the actual point you are making here? What is the problem you are concerned with?

 

[Lursa]

There is another type of support that children need: an attitude toward children that's probably even more important that dollars and cents. That's the public recognition, by all, that children are an important part of society; a concern and care for all children that they are physically and emotionally supported so they have the opportunity to live meaningful and satisfying lives.

I'm more about encouraging not producing more, period, unless wanted and supportable without taxpayer $. I guess that's the opposite of what you're saying? Maybe if we had better quality and more responsible parenting, we'd appreciate those children more. Certainly the care of the ones we end up with is very important to the health and economics of society.

 

[RF667799]

Anti-Choicers don't care about the mother, the baby or caring for any of it... they want to show outrage that others don't buy their bullshit morality as they judge and oppress others, forcing them to not do what is responsible and then say, "hey, you should have thought of that before, have the baby but after that, **** you both"

I've seen people who are very much in favor of abortion, and simultaneously very much in favor of fathers being able to opt out of paying child support. It's like both positions are in pursuit of the same goal.