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But when did I say that it was unlawful. Again, it must be easy to argue against points that have never been made.that link demonstrated this is perfectly lawful legislation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/us/politics/15wisconsin.htmlso how do rights get lawfully stripped?
But when did I say that it was unlawful. Again, it must be easy to argue against points that have never been made.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/us/politics/15wisconsin.html
Um, it doesn't. I'm not registered and I can see it perfectly. What's pathetic is that your posts argue against points that haven't been made.linking to an article requiring registration is pretty pathetic.
What idiocy? The idiocy of you accusing me of making arguments about 'unlawful' whatever when I made no such argument? How about you address what I actually said as you've avoided all of my actual points since you presumably are incapable of addressing them?how about in your own words, you defend this idiocy
Um, it doesn't.
What idiocy? The idiocy of you accusing me of making arguments about 'unlawful' whatever when I made no such argument? How about you address what I actually said as you've avoided all of my actual points since you presumably are incapable of addressing them?
Try this one:this is what your link shows me:
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Someone proposes a bill to strip unions of rights. The bill is passed. This isn't difficult.Now please explain how a simple majority of voters can strip someone of a right.
None of this is true. Your attempting to define rights solely according to definition that hardly anybody in the United States accepts and that no government in the United States abides by.FFS, rights are absolute and cannot be bargained. The unions have no 'rights' beyond the limits of contracts. If anyone can show me where these 'rights' are expressed in the Constitution I will accept the argument. Otherwise, hell no!
What is this comment? You are in a thread about Governor Walker. The entire controversy surrounding him is about collective bargaining rights. Why is this so confusing for you?So any human can publish an article using the term rights, and that’s all it takes for you?
Well it looks like the author is a liar, since I found an article saying he is a liar.
What’s good for the goose….
Can you tell me what rights I have beyond those enshrined in the Constitution? Do others have rights that I don't have?None of this is true. Your attempting to define rights solely according to definition that hardly anybody in the United States accepts and that no government in the United States abides by.
I can't believe you're asking this question.Can you tell me what rights I have beyond those enshrined in the Constitution? Do others have rights that I don't have?
under the U.S. Constitution, states can provide their citizens with broader rights in their constitutions than under the federal Constitution, so long as those rights do not infringe on any federal constitutional rights
Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What is this comment? You are in a thread about Governor Walker. The entire controversy surrounding him is about collective bargaining rights. Why is this so confusing for you?
I can't believe you're asking this question.
This is where you fail every time. Many rights exist outside of the Constitution.They first call something that isn’t a constitutional right a right.
Do I know what state you live in? Well, your info to the left says that you live in the Czech Republic which isn't a state...Are you serious? Did you read he decision? Do you know what state I live in? Not a fair question under the circumstances, I understand. Still, your response is disingenuous and pretty ditzy.
Union 'rights' are not in fact rights by any constitutional standard. Workers' rights are indeed protected by law. Therein lies the distinction.
This is where you fail every time. Many rights exist outside of the Constitution.
Yup, there is a definite difference between rights assigned in the Constitution and the negotiated rights in contracts. Making a concession in a contract by no means mean the concession is for perpetuity, rather it is valid until the contract expires. There is a certain inability on the part of leftist to accept what should probably be obvious. They have no 'rights' beyond that.
Taxpayers' rights and workers' rights can coexist. The foolish attempt by some to make this a question of either/or is stupid.
It looks like the public unions don't have quite the support they imagine. Since elections in WI are typically tight, I would expect that once the union picked candidate is known and starts making a name through advertising, the polls will tighten up. But for now, unions have to be worried and doing their best to discredit this.
Poll: Wis. gov. has slight edge in approval rating - Yahoo! News
I'm not sure how you think sharing your opinion is 'bursting my bubble'. Nothing that you said affected my opinion either way.Sorry to burst your bubble sport. This is about municipal unions. Municipal Unions that FDR and George Meany said were as a cancer on the Republic. As did LaGuardia. They are corrupt. They survive via extortion and payola. And the average working taxpayer is sick of these teat-sucking moochers.
I'm not calling things right. I'm calling them rights. And they are rights and your earlier attempt to pretend that Constitutional rights are the only rights is still wrong.If it isn’t protected by rule of law, it is purely semantics.
Progressives call some things right as a tool to effect change. That is what you are doing, nothing more.
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