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People didn't like working for Steve Jobs.
Are you saying we are working for Donald Trump? BTW, by every measure, Steve Jobs was an absolutely despicable human being, so I don't know I that I would make that comparison.
Are you saying we are working for Donald Trump? BTW, by every measure, Steve Jobs was an absolutely despicable human being, so I don't know I that I would make that comparison.
This thread was anything but mere defamation: it talks about his Tax policy/brackets.
This is about as IN bounds as a string can be!
We can't criticize his Income tax policy?
Hey, why not call it "Fake News".
Your post, OTOH, is the usual Partisan garbage and OFF Topic.
(Empty last wording and MORE OFF TOPIC trash talk necessarily follows, but I don't)
ON topic replies, OTOH, will be responded to.
What? Huh?The problem Biggie is that this thread is based on the results of a poll conducted by CNN/ORC. Have you ever actually looked at the poll to understand how it was conducted?
Here is a cut and past from the poll referenced directly through the link in The Hill article.
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So, 29% of those polled identified as Democrats, 25% as Republicans, and a whopping 45% identified as Independents or some other party.
I'm Guessing Tea Party was not part of those "others" they could identify with.
This is a classic example of oversample which has plagued left leaning Polling for quite some time. CNN has gone full monty in attack Trump mode, I guess because they are trying to hold on to some kind of audience. That should be taken into consideration when reviewing any poll they are involved with. Hey, hang on to whatever floats your boat, but paddling around in a bath tub is not going to get people where they hope to go.
What? Huh?
First, Tea Party may be Republican for polling purpose.
Second, you're admittedly "Guessing" that Tea Party isn't among the independents?
So you DON'T Know methodology, but are criticizing the poll withOUT knowing it!
LOFL
What? Huh?
An unwitting joke of a post feigning knowledge.
First, Tea Party may be Republican for polling purpose.
Second, you're admittedly "Guessing" that Tea Party isn't among the independents?
So you DON'T really Know methodology but criticizing the poll for it anyway!
LOFL
OH, and thanks to Fenton for Bumping this string up after it was dead for 6 days.
Great tactics!
What? Huh?LOL
What a colossal stretch. Even for you.
Is there even a Tea Party?
Have you seen Libertarians supporting Trump? How about Green Party members?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/independent-voters-are-overrated/
This is illustrated well by the most recent Pew Research Center report on party identification, released just a couple days ago. According to Pew’s yearlong study, 33 percent of registered voters identify as Democrats, 29 percent as Republicans and 34 percent as independents.1You were saying?
In other words, the seesaw is often imbalanced.
What? Huh?
what does your post have to do with the CNN/ORC, one for which you admittedly had to "GUESS" to make your claim/criticism of methodology?
All those words, all that authoritative posturing, and you Didn't/Still don't even know methodology! Ooof.
Your new link dump doesn't help.
Now, outright Lying.LOL
I didn't guess at anything biggie. You're the one guessing.
I simply posted the facts missing from the conclusion presented in the OP.
The fact you're clinging to this "guess" things proves your getting a bit desperate to defend a poll that oversampled people to present a desired result.
The link I provided shows party identification as identified in a year long study.
No need to dislocate your extremities to try and deny the facts presented.
ocean515 in post #29 said:..So, 29% of those polled identified as Democrats, 25% as Republicans, and a whopping 45% identified as Independents or some other party. I'm Guessing Tea Party was not part of those "others" they could identify with.".."
Now, outright Lying.
You "guessed" and that was YOUR terminology/Admission.
Again, many Tea Partiers may be included as/ARE Republicans.
1. You've been beaten on "Guess".Since you seem to know. Please post the percentage of Tea Party members represented in that 45%.
In fact, perhaps you could post some facts regarding the number of Tea Party members there are in the country.
You know, the ones who registered as members of the Tea Party.
Coming from pollsters who spent the last year getting everything wrong. Who said Hillary had a 90+% chance of winning. Who said she would get a landslide record setting electoral win. Who when they could no longer ignore Trumps huge campaign rally crowds predicted he might win the popular vote but Hillary would still get 350+ electoral votes.
I wish I knew who you were working for because you certainly aren't supporting job creation, economic growth, secure border, personal responsibility and individual wealth creation which is the foundation upon which this country was created and made it the greatest power on the face of the earth. Maybe that is the problem you hate success.
Your focus is on giving people what you think they want while ignoring that you are creating a dependent class that won't change personal behavior. Throwing money at the problem may make you feel good but it creates an entitlement mentality that divides people into classes. You apparently have no problem with that
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One big word salad attempt at a strawman argument...
And typical leftwing diversion from answering the question or responding to the post
I wish I knew who you were working for because you certainly aren't supporting job creation, economic growth, secure border, personal responsibility and individual wealth creation which is the foundation upon which this country was created and made it the greatest power on the face of the earth. Maybe that is the problem you hate success.
Your focus is on giving people what you think they want while ignoring that you are creating a dependent class that won't change personal behavior. Throwing money at the problem may make you feel good but it creates an entitlement mentality that divides people into classes. You apparently have no problem with that
Your post had nothing at all to do with my post you responded to. I responded to a post where Trump was compared to Steve Jobs by pointing out, correctly, that as a person, Steve Jobs was a despicable human being.
You then responded to my post with the following diatribe that had nothing at all to do with what I wrote:
1. I don't hate success. I consider myself a hardworking person that is happy and content with his life.
2. I have never taken a cent in any government benefits, not even so much an unemployment check, in my entire life. This is despite the fact that I grew up in poverty.
3. I called Steve Jobs a despicable human being because he denied paternity of his daughter for several years, leaving her and her mother in poverty. As a father, I can of few things more despicable than that.
You asked if you were working for Donald Trump and seemed to tie him to Steve Jobs when there is no comparison if you looked at the Trump children and how they turned out. Calling Jobs despicable is one thing but comparing Trump to Jobs in that context doesn't make any sense to me
Scots teach us how to handle Trump...
Most polls got it correct within the margin of error. Stop spreading falsehoods.
1. You've been beaten on "Guess".
YOU Guessed.
Then you Lied.
2. Now you're trying the Burden Shift/Detail fallacy.
I don't have to provide detailed/exact breakdowns.
As I said in my last, ""Again, many Tea Partiers may be included as/ARE Republicans. Some may be independents/etc. It's not like anyone said 'Lets not call Tea Partiers', or that would have been mentioned in the methodology.""
3. Gameover.
You know what they say about polls concerning Trump. :shrug:
If you don't, just look back to the campaign season. :coffeepap:
Feel free to quote a poll that did not say Hillary would not win a massive electoral college victory?
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