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Hi Deuce!
Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!
Not my problem. The employee should have to choose between birth control, or pregnancy coverage. Can't have both.
I need gas too, should my car insurance cover that? Don't I have a right to gas?
j-mac
Yes I am quite aware that we survived millenia without health insurance.
MY POINT: is that it is elective for an employer to even provide insurance (with them paying partial costs) therefore, if they ELECT to provide it as a perk to their employee's then it should be HEALTH insurance. BC SAVES insurance companies MONEY therefore SAVES the employers as well, on more than one front for the employer, less out of work time for their female employee's etc.
An employer does not have to elect for this. An employee can work somewhere who does, or pay for it out of pocket.
There are multitude of plans out their for people who wish to pay for insurance, some plans are hospitalization only and goes up from there... some employers only offer the cheaper insurance such as hospitalization only for their junior/less skilled employee's.
BUT it is ridiculous to say BC is not a benefit to both the employer and the employee, this has nothing to do with liberals, its sheer common sense! And more ridiculous to blame any religion!
Hi Deuce!
Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!
The issue that is a non issue with the people. To quote the Clinton campaign from the 1990's...."It's the economy stupids".
Folks are concerned with how they will feed their kids, Folks are concerned with Over 8% unemployment for the longest sustained time in the history of this country since the great depression, folks are concerned with 19% underemployment, folks are concerned with 4+ trillion dollars in new debt in less than 3 years, folks are concerned with home foreclosures continuing unabated by any Obama plan, folks are concerned with gasoline heading toward $5 a gallon driving up prices of all consumer goods and food prices hitting the stratosphere and folks are concerned with GDP growth below 2% which means we're losing ground. What they aren't concerned with is whether employers should be allowed not to cover contraception. We just want to pay our bills and feed our kids. Yet the Democrats are yeowing about contraception? How outta touch is that?
Then why have insruance at all, if we are going to say all things we need are equal, regardless of relationship to health.
:coffeepap
Bull****. An employer should be able to decide what they offer in all realms, helath insurance and otherwise. Its for the employer to decide what is cheaper for them.
That's it. If Sandra Fluck wants coverage for contracepton, then let her by a policy that covers such, and pay the premiums. Or let her go out of pocket.
What is complete manure is liberals thinking that free stuff should include contraception ... etc.
No. Free stuff needs to end.
You are less than worth my time in speaking with. Filthy language and insults, this is the cry the ignorant use when they have no argument, not an intellectual who discusses topics intelligently. Goodbye
Pay for your own insurance. That's the debate. Make the chouce to go out-of-pocket, or pay for the level coverage you want in a pool of other folks who pay. All this BS is about liberals thinking they are owed free contraceptive coverage.
**** that.
What would you have done if you discovered a malignant tumor in your gut?
When you explain to most people that birth control isn't about not getting pregnant, there are many other female issue that require birth control drugs for treatment?
Employers should not cheap out on health care. If you offer health care, offer health care. Don't go bargain shopping with peoples lives and health.
So, insurance isn't part of my compensaion, up to me to decide how it is used? You better tell Catholic leadership becasue they always told me it was salary.
Don't let the door hit you in the butt then.
I am the painful truth for the rest of you "I am not a liberal" liberals. The bottom line is free stuff. Sandra Fluke was about liberal parasites. Sandra, and the rest of you, have full access to purchase contraception. Via insurance, or medical prescription, orf the bathrooms where your boyfriends buy their gasoline. Nothing stopping slut Sandra's ****-du-jour from contraception except $2 and a trip to the all night CVS. Ribbed. Colored. Flavored.
What you do not have is a right to demand someone else pay for it besides you. Stop being wussies.
I am probably sorry. I found myself extremely offended at your language, i am not used to this kind of thing. When I walk into a room everyone changes their behavior, although I know they do, I am also used to it. No one uses foul language around me in real life, no one tells strange jokes or behaves poorly in my company. It does not matter if I am around homeless people or the least educated of our society or the highest personages in society, everyone changes into little angels around me.
It is difficult for me to be around it because I cannot remember a day I was around bad language or bad behavior... I am simply not used to it.
and I am sure the door wont hit me on my way out.
Hi Deuce!
Last August, I fell and broke my wrist. The pain was excruciating. Not having any health insurance, I went to a local Imaging Center and paid $150 for an X-Ray and reading. Turns out I fractured my radius and tore some muscles and tendons. The X-Ray guy told me that there was nothing to be done but R.I.C.E and immobilization. I went to WalGreens and bought a wrist brace and wore it till things healed. I found out there was nothing to do but wait and heal. I didn't need a doctor to cup my cheek and tell me it would be OK, or give me some fancy over priced pills. Folks today need to man up and stop being such Oprahfied sissies. A lady friend of mine is a nurse, she tells me some parents rush into the clinic every time junior sneezes. If Obama Care stands, it'll end up costing us all hundreds of billions of dollars each and every year. Oy Vie!
Let me guess. Its not fair that you don't get more free stuff.
Those would already be covered as a medical necessity. Why do you ask?
My family owns a business. If they provided health insurance to their employees, they'd have no chance of making a profit.Employers should not cheap out on health care. If you offer health care, offer health care. Don't go bargain shopping with peoples lives and health.
My family owns a business. If they provided health insurance to their employees, they'd have no chance of making a profit.
I couldnt care less if an employer picks insurance that covers BC or not but what does matter is if that employer makes that decision solely based on religion. Then its a problem and thats not allowed.
You could replace BC with anything :shrug:
I've considered it many times.Yet another reason to consider UHC.
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