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Poll: Faith In America’s Military Plummets To Lowest Level In More Than 20 Years

Well let's see, we stayed in Afghanistan and Iraq far longer then necessary and often time once military members enter the general population then they do not get the medical or other benefits that they were promised. On top of that, the military has been used to prop up corporate interests.

Its hard to have faith in an institution that is being so misused.
 

We also have the GOP and right-wing media tearing it down 24/7.
 
Over 50% of Republicans now claim they will vote for Trump as their candidate despite indictment after indictment for his crimes. They have lost touch with reality and now think a dictator will be good for them.
 
Republicans have become what we fought against successfully to defeat throughout the 20th century.

Authoritarians.

MAGAs are the 21st century American racist armband right. Republican leaning Independents bolster the number of MAGA voters.

The Trump Republican-MAGA Wrecking Ball pays little or no mind to the federal Dept. of Transportation, or to most other federal departments such as Interior, Commerce, HUD and so on. DeSantis and MAGAs however are against all forms of public and secular education to include universities and professors especially. They hate the fun and good times of Disneyland of course -- can't have any of that either.

Republicans-MAGAs are instead assaulting FBI, DoJ, CIA, Homeland Security, the Armed Forces, elections officials and citizen volunteers, Office of National Intelligence, judges and prosecutors alike. The Republican-MAGA-Republican-leaning offensive operation is unrelenting and ever expanding. The MAGA target is their so called 'deep state' that is in fact right out here in front of us doing their work in national security and social stability. MAGAs are moreover hell bent to destroy NATO and all US alliances abroad.

The Republican - MAGA focus is against national defense and security and domestic tranquility. Yet and as I've reiterated over the past several years, by one way or the other this will not stand. No way.
 
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When George W Bush convinced Congress to approve presidential deployment powers for limited "interventions," they made a huge mistake.

You are aware he has been out of office for over 14 years now, right? Most of those who would be of an age to consider joining today would have barely been into grade school when he left office.

So for how long exactly do we blame all of the current problems on past administrations? 3 terms? 4 terms?
 

I am blaming the policy that he created, which persists to this day. I am less concerned about the man responsible but the government structures that continue to enable the bad policy.

Part of our military's current bad reputation is that, since George W. created that policy, it has been used as a tool for endless "interventions" without Congressional approval. We never declare war anymore, we just "intervene." Tax payers are footing the bill but their elected representatives don't get a say.

Military resources and morale are being stretched thin by these crony, unapproved war campaigns. We need to roll back these executive powers asap.
 
The armed forces are the targets of Trump, Republicans, MAGA and Republican leaning Independents. And Putin.

None of which have any credibility or legitimacy across the armed forces.

We who continue to be Americans dedicated to the principles in the Constitution (that needs revision) do continue to support our military. We support our military against all enemies foreign and domestic. And our armed forces support us. Not you. This has happened before that led to the Reconstruction, cut off at the knees as it was by Confederates. Hint Hint. No more Mr. Nice Guy Abe Lincoln about it I'm afraid. Not this time around.
 
This is one more reason to elect Trump again. He will focus on fixing the military.
 
I can see why that may be.

Interesting the decline started in 2021.

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We are obviously primed for another senseless war, but it better happen before Trump is elected.

Trump is the most peaceful president ever.

MAGA.
 
Part of our military's current bad reputation is that, since George W. created that policy, it has been used as a tool for endless "interventions" without Congressional approval. We never declare war anymore, we just "intervene."

Yes, that has only been done since Thomas Jefferson was President in 1801.

And do not forget that President Clinton did it multiple times as well. Nice to see how selective you are in choosing what you wish to remember as history.
 
This is one more reason to elect Trump again. He will focus on fixing the military.
Same way Trump "fixed" the FBI and the stolen election that he's now indicted for.

Republicans-MAGAs are assaulting FBI, DoJ, CIA, Homeland Security, the Armed Forces, elections officials and citizen volunteers, Office of National Intelligence, judges and prosecutors alike. The Republican-MAGA-Republican-leaning offensive operation is unrelenting and ever expanding. The MAGA target is their so called 'deep state' that is in fact right out here in front of us doing their work in national security and social stability. MAGAs are moreover hell bent to destroy NATO and all US alliances abroad.

In other words, the PutinTrumpMAGA fix is long term and active always. Supported by Republican leaning Independent voters too.
 
I understand your frustrations but do not worry. Allow me to assure you all the things on your list will also be addressed if we should be lucky enough to have Trump as our President for another term.

He will not only drain the swamp. He is going to hose it down and sanitize it with bleach.

Sleep easy my friend. Justice is coming.
 
Whuuuut?
 
I said the armed forces are the targets of Trump, Republicans, MAGA and Republican leaning Independents. And Putin.

None of which have any credibility or legitimacy across the armed forces.

It is these America haters who have turned against the armed forces and who are reflected in the polling over the past few years. We Constitutional Americans in contrast continue to support the armed forces and the armed forces continue to support us -- against all enemies foreign and domestic.
 
Yes, that has only been done since Thomas Jefferson was President in 1801.

And do not forget that President Clinton did it multiple times as well. Nice to see how selective you are in choosing what you wish to remember as history.

This is incorrect. The powers to deploy without congressional approval at the levels we are currently seeing did not exist during the Clinton era or before.

Please stop making stuff up because you are desperate to be right.
 
When Congress declares war it needs the request of the Potus/CinC. Congress can't just up and vote to declare war. Congress in the system of checks and balances and separation of powers needs the formal request of the Potus/CinC. The two need to be together on funding and prosecuting a war involving the entire resources of the nation that sends massive numbers of troops off to fight.

A declaration of war is a huge act and national action. It is reserved for mobilizing the entire nation militarily and at home for production. In a declared war debt has no limit. A declaration of war is against a nation state or it runs the real risk of being illegal under International Law and the Laws of War. Neither Taliban nor ISIS et all are a nation state.

Had Congress declared war in the Korean Conflict which is the legal name in the USA -- not the Korean War -- Mao and China would have shat a brick and got into it right away instead of entering the Conflict as US forces approached the Yalu River border of CCP-NK in a UN authorized intervention. At that point all Mao wanted to do was stop the US forces, not try to defeat 'em. Mao did regain NK territorially and that's how the Conflict ended and still stands, as a truce. There's no peace treaty because there was no "war" as declared by Congress or by the UN. Additionally NK still does not recognize a "peace" with SK nor will it.

Congress voted to recognize the war in Vietnam as the "Vietnam Era" rather than as The War it did not declare and that was never requested by either Potus/CinC Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford. Congress acted after the VA declared the "Vietnam Era Veteran" to make those veterans legally eligible for specific treatments and benefits. Congress and the DoD have shorter timelines and dates than the VA has -- so the broader VA definition applies to Vietnam Era veterans only.

Congress votes Resolutions in any instance of a request by the Potus/CinC to commit US forces abroad to engage a legally defined enemy. Which is why the GW administration came up with "non state combatant" as the legal term justifying US military engagement in foreign lands abroad, in Afghanistan but not only Afghanistan (the US had to bomb Laos and Cambodia during the VN Conflict, and not only). Thus the Taliban had the legal definition of non state combatant, ie, an illegitimate ad hoc non state military force that needed to be engaged by US and allies by hybrid military means. That is, counter terrorism, war on terrorism, counter insurgency, the notion of "small wars" and so on.

So for Korea, VN and post 9/11 it was unnecessary, unpopular and unwise to declare war which would mobilize the entire nation and its resources when there was not an actively menacing, well armed and financed attacker nation state. We shout loudly about Iran being a state sponsor of terrorism yet we choose to address it by superior hybrid military means that now include armed aerial drones rather than a formal declaration of war. In a post VN Era formal declaration of war activating selective service levies of new troops from among the civilian population would have become problematical with the American public. I mean, Congress declaring war against Afghanistan? Grenada?? Belgrade?

Americans anyway continue to support the AVF, it's the MAGAs who have abandoned the American armed forces whose oath to the Constitution is to preserve, protect, defend same against all enemies foreign and domestic. MAGAs have always known which they are -- and whose side they're on together with hostile foreign governments.
 
Whoever is actually running the executive branch made a serious error in pushing woke bullshit into military ranks. And at a time when we may need a strong military. Decline of the Roman Empire V2.0.
 
Whoever is actually running the executive branch made a serious error in pushing woke bullshit into military ranks. And at a time when we may need a strong military. Decline of the Roman Empire V2.0.

You don’t get to have an opinion on the military.
 

I was referring to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed by Congress for George W. Bush after 9/11 which grants the POTUS the power to send in the military without Congressional approval. It was designed for hunting "terrorists" but the language of the AUMF does not limit it to that function. These powers were never rescinded. The POTUS just has to give a nice little speech to the public about why military deployment is necessary and then he sends them off. These are not called wars, they are called "interventions," usually at the behest of neoliberal cronies.

What you're talking about has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Sorry you wrote all that for nothing.

My faith in the US military has been declining for decades but it reached an all time low once the AUMF was passed, turning our military into mercenaries for anyone who can convince (or manipulate) the POTUS to deploy them.

As a side note, it would be nice if people in this thread would stop arguing with me about basic information and learn to use Google. I'm tired of having to spoon-feed people on this forum.
 
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