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PolitiFact editors and reporters have chosen "government takeover of health care" as the 2010 Lie of the Year.
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Their second-place choice was Rep. Michele Bachmann's claim that Obama was going to spend $200 million a day on a trip to India, a falsity that still sprouts.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2010/dec/16/lie-year-government-takeover-health-care/
Republican strategist, Frank Luntz, is credited with PolitiFact's 2010 lie of the year.
This comes on the heels of PolitiFact's 2009 Lie of the Year winner - Sarah Palin's posting of 'Death Panels' on her Facebook page.
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At first I thought that PolitiFact was a mostly non-biased site that maybe tilted a tiny bit towards the left, but it's harder to believe that every time I see them.
Okay, forget that they chose two right-wing "lies" in a row for two years (as is the 2nd place lie this year). Seriously? "Government take-over" is the biggest lie they could find? That's a huge stretch of the truth at worst, and a valid political position at best. Who's to judge what does, and doesn't, constitute a "takeover"? It's pretty clear that the law calls for a huge and unprecedented increase in the government's power when it comes to health care. More importantly though, who's to say what the actual effects of the bill are that aren't just written on paper? It could very well lead to what's basically a government takeover of the industry - Obama himself has all but admitted such. Hell, even Politifact labeled an entry using the exact same wording as merely "false", rather than "pants on fire"; to call it the "lie of the year" thus makes no sense at all.
At first I thought that PolitiFact was a mostly non-biased site that maybe tilted a tiny bit towards the left, but it's harder to believe that every time I see them.
Okay, forget that they chose two right-wing "lies" in a row for two years (as is the 2nd place lie this year). Seriously? "Government take-over" is the biggest lie they could find? That's a huge stretch of the truth at worst, and a valid political position at best. Who's to judge what does, and doesn't, constitute a "takeover"? It's pretty clear that the law calls for a huge and unprecedented increase in the government's power when it comes to health care. More importantly though, who's to say what the actual effects of the bill are that aren't just written on paper? It could very well lead to what's basically a government takeover of the industry - Obama himself has all but admitted such. Hell, even Politifact labeled an entry using the exact same wording as merely "false", rather than "pants on fire"; to call it the "lie of the year" thus makes no sense at all.
I vote for:
"They will see that if Americans like their doctor, they will keep their doctor. If people like their plan, they will keep their plan. No one will be able to take that away from you"
What would you consider to be a bigger lie?
Probably the biggest lie was the reasons for going into Iraq, call me crazy :coffeepap:
That didn't happen in 2009 and 2010 though. I was thinking within those two years.
Oh... well.
Yeah I'd say the whole Death Panel thing was pretty below the belt bad lie.
The Shirley Sherrod thing was pretty bad too... we all seem to have forgotten about that. But I guess that's not so much a lie, as it was a deliberately misinforming people by editing
Never mind that the government plan has been so destructive that Obama has been forced grant hundreds of waivers from his cumbersome mandates to keep hundreds of thousands of workers from losing their coverage. :coffeepapIn context, as the government is not taking them away, and insurance companis have been doing so for years, I wouldn't rate that near as abig a lie.
I guess one major lie that most conservatives would agree with was that one chick being a witch.
Certainly one major lie some Conservatives keep telling themselves is that Palin will win in 2012
the bigger lie is the one many liberals believe... that Palin will win the GOP nomination.
Never mind that the government plan has been so destructive that Obama has been forced grant hundreds of waivers from his cumbersome mandates to keep hundreds of thousands of workers from losing their coverage. :coffeepap
No, let's concern ourselves with what some random pundit had to say Lubbitz? Lutz? Luntz? I guess his name doesn't really matter. :coffeepap
So, they should ignroe the major lies because they are right wing? Wouldn't that be showing bias?
What would you consider to be a bigger lie?
Um, that's sort of the exact opposite of what I said.
I'll be fair though, apparently it was voted by the readers, so it has more to do with the bias of people who go there than the bias of the website itself. Still, looking at a list of the "Lies of the Year", every single one of the top 4 are by Republicans, as are the majority of them in general; and beyond that, as I just explained, #1 shouldn't even qualify since it's not so much a complete blatant lie as it is a stretch of the truth, or simply a belief/prediction of what's to come.
In context, as the government is not taking them away, and insurance companis have been doing so for years, I wouldn't rate that near as abig a lie.
Of course you wouldn't but the fact remains you cannot keep a plan that no longer exists and the Obama administration lied by never addressing that issue. I like the Obama Administration lie that passing the stimulus would keep unemployment capped at 8%? Or the lie that the stimulus plan saved or created millions of jobs when the reality is there is no evidence of that. Or the Obama lie that "I inherited a 1.3 trillion deficit from Bush. Deficits are yearly and fiscal year 2009 ended in Sept. 2009 so Obama had 9 months of that fiscal year and lied about what he inherited.
I agree, Polifact is nothing more than a leftwing mouthpiece embraced by other leftwingers.
Reality has a liberal bias. :coffeepap
How about addressing the reality I posted? Those are much bigger lies than anything Polifact has considered.
I will when you do. :coffeepap
Reality does have a liberal bias when it comes to Polifact. Do you have a list of the lies considered?
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