Polish Plane Crash

[Coronado]

You knew it was going to happen.

Polish president killed in plane crash: the conspiracy theorists will go crazy

By Damian Thompson World Last updated: April 10th, 2010
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Polish president Lech Kaczynski has been killed in an air crash, along with many of his country’s top brass. Read Daniel Hannan’s reaction here. One of the nastier consequences of international disasters is that conspiracy theorists rush to judgment – and I do mean rush. The fact that the president and so many of the Polish elite were on a visit to Russia will feature prominently in the fantastic stories being cooked up in cyberspace right now. And I can say with confidence that they are being cooked up, because Poland, like most East European countries, is obsessed with conspiracies. Russians, Jews, Americans, Freemasons – they will all be blamed. Some stories will be more credible than others. These explanations are so much more emotionally satisfying to traumatised people than the likely truth: that the Polish politicians – like so many politicians in less developed countries – were accustomed to risking their lives in dodgy planes.

Post 'em here, folks. :roll:

 

[Cold Highway]

LOL LMAO! :lamo:lamo

 

[BmanMcfly]

I've heard about the plane crash... don't know if it's the result of human error, or a targeted conspiracy.

I mean, plane crashes DO happen without the aid of conspiracies...

Also, politicians every now and then are assassinated through various means.

What would really be important are the details in the facts that come out... Did the president do anything in recent days / weeks that would make him 'unpopular' with the types of people that might stage an 'accident'?

Side note not to do with this thread : notice this plane crash... how at the scene there's a PLANE that has CRASHED???

Anyway... why would the Russians want to kill, what looks like a good portion of the Polish cabinet? Or who would want to frame the russians for doing such a thing? Who would benefit?

 

[samsmart]

I still don't see why so much of the Polish government was in one airplane so something like this could happen. I would either have used two airplanes or have one party fly and the other party drive.

 

[BmanMcfly]

I think I found a potential reason that would point to this crash being more then just a simple plane crash...

Pro-Euro Tusk May Tighten Grip on Poland After Kaczynski Death - BusinessWeek

It seems that Kaczynski was against the euro, and had placed 'euro'-eceptics in key positions... Now, there will be an election, and it seems as though the 'pro-euro' candidate will be replacing him if their election goes as 'predicted'.

 

[Flea]

I still don't see why so much of the Polish government was in one airplane so something like this could happen. I would either have used two airplanes or have one party fly and the other party drive.

Why did the Poles lose their entire government, because they all flew on one plane together.


Just a first draft.

 

[Flea]

i think i found a potential reason that would point to this crash being more then just a simple plane crash...

pro-euro tusk may tighten grip on poland after kaczynski death - businessweek

it seems that kaczynski was against the euro, and had placed 'euro'-eceptics in key positions... Now, there will be an election, and it seems as though the 'pro-euro' candidate will be replacing him if their election goes as 'predicted'.

and we have a winner!@!!!!

 

[BmanMcfly]

and we have a winner!@!!!!

Pro-conspiracy facts :
- Plane was full of what must have been a majority of Polish parliament
- The leader was anti-euro
- his 'favored' to win the election is 'pro-euro' (that this gets mentioned in business week is odd in itself, it seems 'good business' news that this polish leader died)
- No clear benificiary... would it be russians doing this against poland? Was this an attempt to frame Russia? etc...

Pro-human error facts :
- The plane had mechanical errors
- There was multiple attempts to make the landing
- Planes DO occasionally crash because of drunk pilots, etc..

All I'm saying is that under the circumstance, this politician has spit in the face of the people that sign his paycheque (the european central banks that are turning the euro into the standard currency), and that there is already talk of the types of changes expected of his successor...

It's nothing more then a potential motive.

 

[Gladiator]

Part of a conspiracy is he cover-up.

If the Air Traffic corollers had been trying to direct No 101 tlign up sith herunway, why did Putin not releas that part of the tape?

Putin only rleased the information that tends to exonerate his Russian flight controllers, that they asked No 101 to divert to minsk or Moscow.

The flight was 300 Meters off course for landing on the runway.

2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did No 101 hit a Radio Beacon Tower, as it approached the airport? Did the colliion wiht he RBT cause a loss of cotrol and crash? Ws there a cross-wind, jusifying an offset with the runway?

 

[spud_meister]

it was done by the Alpaca mafia to drive down the price of whale burgers in the penguin controlled areas of antarctica

 

[Flea]

it was done by the Alpaca mafia to drive down the price of whale burgers in the penguin controlled areas of antarctica

This is ridiculous. Do you have any proof of this?

 

[Gladiator]

Part of a conspiracy is he cover-up.

If the Air Traffic corollers had been trying to direct No 101 to line up with the runway, why did Putin not release that part of the tape?

Putin only released the information that tends to exonerate his Russian flight controllers, that they asked No 101 to divert to Minsk or Moscow.

The flight was 300 Meters off course for landing on the runway.

2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did No 101 hit a Radio Beacon Tower, as it approached the airport? Did the collision with the RBT cause a loss of cotrol and crash? Was there a cross-wind, jusifying an offset with the runway?

I cleaned up a few of my typos.

 

[Coronado]

This is ridiculous. Do you have any proof of this?

Conspiracies don't require proof. Actually, the existence of no proof is proof itself of a conspiracy.

 

[VanceMack]

You knew it was going to happen.Post 'em here, folks. :roll:

too soon for Polish jokes?

I'll wait...just let me know...

 

[Coronado]

too soon for Polish jokes?

I'll wait...just let me know...

You'll still go to hell for making them, but you have to wait another week to avoid the lower circles.

 

[BmanMcfly]

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6ztLe4QLY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Gunshots heard at Polish Plane Crash Site-Shocking Footage[/nomedia]

I had to turn the volume up pretty high to hear, but it sounded like 3-4 gunshots, don't know if that was 'warning shots' to the witnesses approachiing, or what, but there it is...

I mean, how terrible would that be if the plane was intentionally crashed, and then if anyone DID survive the crash they were shot... anyway, not that this vid is proof of that either. Though, I don't understand the language, so I couldn't tell what was said (and I doubt it followed the 'captions')...

Just thought I'd throw this one in there...

 

[Gladiator]

YouTube- Gunshots heard at Polish Plane Crash Site-Shocking Footage

I had to turn the volume up pretty high to hear, but it sounded like 3-4 gunshots, don't know if that was 'warning shots' to the witnesses approachiing, or what, but there it is...

I mean, how terrible would that be if the plane was intentionally crashed, and then if anyone DID survive the crash they were shot... anyway, not that this vid is proof of that either. Though, I don't understand the language, so I couldn't tell what was said (and I doubt it followed the 'captions')...

Just thought I'd throw this one in there...

The video starts after the plane was already on the ground. No fires are seen, so the video might have been started after the firemen had put the fires out. Several small brush fires can be seen in other video coverage,w ith firemen putting out the fires.

Do Russian soldiers routinely shoot at ordinary citizens who are residents in that part of Russia? Were the soldiers the ones shooting? Was tehre fear of ooting by the residents who came to the crash site?





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[BmanMcfly]

The video starts after the plane was already on the ground. No fires are seen, so the video might have been started after the firemen had put the fires out. Several small brush fires can be seen in other video coverage,w ith firemen putting out the fires.

Do Russian soldiers routinely shoot at ordinary citizens who are residents in that part of Russia? Were the soldiers the ones shooting? Was tehre fear of ooting by the residents who came to the crash site?

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That's also some good questions... It's really unclear who was shooting, where and what they were shooting at. I'm not an expert, but that does sound kinda like a small pistol or something like that, I mean hell, under the circumstance, I'm sure there's a variety of explanations for loud popping noises that don't involve guns.

 

[VanceMack]

You'll still go to hell for making them, but you have to wait another week to avoid the lower circles.

Why did the polish government transport plane crash? Because the pilot, co- pilot, and navigator were busy changing a lightbulb.

Hell is hell...right?

 

[Coronado]

Hell is hell...right?

Meh ... I've seen worse in Philadelphia.

 

[creativedreams]

Let's compare this crash site to the 9/11 crash site of Flight 93...


Real plane crash site:

9/11 crash that gets us where the oil is:
Note: Picture taken within hours after crash...

 

[spud_meister]

Let's compare this crash site to the 9/11 crash site of Flight 93...


Real plane crash site:

9/11 crash that gets us where the oil is:
Note: Picture taken within hours after crash...

wow, you're right, i don't even see a landing strip in the last one, and it said they were near an airport, I KNEW IT, it's an Alpaca mafia coverup, they just placed explosive tortoises to get smoking craters, and the plane didn't really crash, it was kidnapped by the penguins to get to the polish presidents junior assistant's junior assistant.

 

[Coronado]

Let's compare this crash site to the 9/11 crash site of Flight 93...


Real plane crash site:

9/11 crash that gets us where the oil is:
Note: Picture taken within hours after crash...

Let's see, the Polish plane was attempting to land, while United Airlines Flight 93 was flown in from a high altitude at something close to cruising speed. Therefore the speed and angles of attack were totally different.

Gee, do you think the crash scenes might look a little different? :roll:

 

[creativedreams]

wow, you're right, i don't even see a landing strip in the last one, and it said they were near an airport, I KNEW IT, it's an Alpaca mafia coverup, they just placed explosive tortoises to get smoking craters, and the plane didn't really crash, it was kidnapped by the penguins to get to the polish presidents junior assistant's junior assistant.

Guess what I don't even see the small strip mine where Flight 93 crashed either!

 

[creativedreams]

Let's see, the Polish plane was attempting to land, while United Airlines Flight 93 was flown in from a high altitude at something close to cruising speed. Therefore the speed and angles of attack were totally different.

Gee, do you think the crash scenes might look a little different? :roll:

I guess I would expect to see pieces of the aluminum balloon everywhere...perhaps some seats, wheels, etc too.....I guess they wasted all that money researching for technology on bunker busting bombs when they could just use the aluminum balloons of the 757 types.