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Police are still killing people at the same rate as before

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George Floyd’s murder, the ensuing mass protests, the renewed calls for police reform and the trial of the former police officer convicted of his murder overshadow a staggering reality: The pace of fatal encounters with police, who have killed about three people per day this year, is on par with last year’s daily average. Through the first four months of the year, there have been just six days in which police across the United States did not kill anyone. It’s a bracing reminder of how little has changed despite a pandemic and intense scrutiny of policing practices in the 12 months since the world witnessed the Floyd killing in Minneapolis. “There’s an effort, at least by some political actors, to give folks false hope that we’re turning the corner around police violence,” said Scott Roberts, senior director of criminal justice and democracy campaigns at the racial justice group Color of Change. “These numbers show that, as far as we can tell, it’ll continue.” Black people like teenager Ma’Khia Bryant, 20-year-old Daunte Wright and 42-year-old Andrew Brown Jr. have all suffered the same fate as Floyd — and so many others before them — in recent weeks: death by police. They are among 89 Black people who have been killed by police this year through May 21, according to Mapping Police Violence. Another teen, Adam Toledo, who was Latino, was shot and killed by police in Chicago in March.

In a nation in which Black people are three times more likely to be killed by police than white people — and 1.3 times more likely to be unarmed when killed by police — the statistics are damning. Criminal justice experts lament that policing culture is predicated on violence, with militarized police forces, overcriminalization of low-level offenses and an us-versus-them mentality inside police forces. “Research tells me they’re not recruiting the right people for the job and they’re not training them for the job,” La Vigne said. “They’re training them to take a warrior approach rather than a guardian approach. They’re trained in a militaristic style. They’re trained on use of force, with a use-of-force continuum that gets in their head that you start with this amount of force and then you increase it to that amount and then a higher threshold and a higher threshold versus being trained in de-escalation, which is really pre-escalation.” Prosecutors have also been a focus of activist groups like Color of Change in recent years. The Cato Institute’s Neily suggested conflicts of interest between prosecutors and police officers could factor into why so few officers are criminally charged and convicted for killing people.


The entire US criminal justice system badly needs an overhaul.
 
Just a note, NYC has reduced stop-and-frisk considerably. It had been shown to use racial profiling. Although stop and frisk was reduced, % of racial profiling did not go down.
 
"Police are still killing people at the same rate as before"

Yes, the few that are killed for improper reasons are insignificant numbers compared to a proper kill. The problem we have is a media that sensationalized every thing they can, to the point people are ignorant.
 
Just a note, NYC has reduced stop-and-frisk considerably. It had been shown to use racial profiling. Although stop and frisk was reduced, % of racial profiling did not go down.

There is no racial profiling in NYC. Never was. There is criminal profiling that takes place and should.

Hope this helps!
 
Or, maybe, cops shooting cannot be totally eliminated and they are already as low as can reasonably be expected. ;)

How does Britain eliminate police shootings?

Magic?
 
That's just an asinine response. What society has never had any criminals?

Besides, the GOP response to more crime is to make more guns available to potential criminals....

Texans could carry handguns without a permit under bill headed to Gov. Greg Abbott's desk

No permit, no training, no license, just have the money.

That's just an asinine response. What society has never had any criminals?

Besides, the GOP response to more crime is to make more guns available to potential criminals....

Texans could carry handguns without a permit under bill headed to Gov. Greg Abbott's desk

No permit, no training, no license, just have the money.

Why take the no criminals' statement to the extreme. Of course this or any other country never has or never will be devoid or a criminal element. Oops! I could be wrong there as the ever-growing population of liberals in this country are determined to protect and defend all criminals. According to them, and their warped agenda, criminals are not responsible for their bad deeds because they are just victims of us conservative racists. Society is to blame, Trump is to blame. Why does every liberal response have to in some way contain a delusional jab at Trump.
 




The entire US criminal justice system badly needs an overhaul.
But how many are unjust killings?

BTW: the article mentions Ma’Khia Bryant as though she was an innocent victim. She wasn't. She was in the middle of attempting to murder someone when she was killed by a cop.
 
Well, it certainly helps to obey the laws, cooperate with Police, and refrain from resisting arrest and otherwise acting a damn FOOL.

I havent been shot by one single cop yet and dont expect to be.

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Although stop and frisk was reduced, % of racial profiling did not go down.
It is only human to use "racial profiling."

Two certain groups commit most of the street crime (such as sucker punching Asians or robbing liquor store clerks and then killing them), so the cops (or ordinary citizens) of course are going to suspect (rightly or wrongly) a young man of those two groups rather than, say, a young Scandinavian male.
 
"Police are still killing people at the same rate as before"

Yes, the few that are killed for improper reasons are insignificant numbers compared to a proper kill. The problem we have is a media that sensationalized every thing they can, to the point people are ignorant.


It isn't a matter of a lower number of improper vs proper kills. It's a matter of the disproportionate number of improper kills of black people. You're trying to change the subject. If you want to argue your subject, start a thread on that topic. Then I'll point out to you that developed nations have a much lower proportion of "improper" kills.
 
And no reply.

Understood.

Oh, I confused you. Let me SPELL it out.

Apples and oranges.

That is what you post did, it compared apples to oranges.

I am surprised you could not understand.

Peace
 
Or, maybe, cops shooting cannot be totally eliminated and they are already as low as can reasonably be expected. ;)
Ehmm no. Weird poe act ya got going.
 
Ehmm no. Weird poe act ya got going.

We live in a VERY violent sociaty, in a country of 350 million!

Shit is gonna happen.

The major problem is not that cops kill people while doing their jobs it is that sociaty is so violent.

Take away guns and poverty and watch the cop killing fall like magic.

Stop blaming cops for what TRumpists create.
 
We live in a VERY violent sociaty, in a country of 350 million!

Shit is gonna happen.

The major problem is not that cops kill people while doing their jobs it is that sociaty is so violent.

Take away guns and poverty and watch the cop killing fall like magic.

Stop blaming cops for what TRumpists create.

:ROFLMAO:. Yes cops are totally blameless, or so the narrative goes.
 
Compared to firefighting and EMTs cops have it ****in made. You get society groveling over you so much that they wanna give you APCs while firefighters had to deal with 9/11 while using radios never updated since the 50s.
 
In a society of 350 million people, the number of blacks killed by police is so small as to be a non-issue. The number of police killings of black people who are innocent is even smaller than that. Why are we spending so much time and effort on an issue that isn't even statistically significant? If we put our effort into saving lives, there are much more efficient things killing us to be attacked and changed. It's almost like the people deciding on the narrative are just trying to keep us from making any real changes that could actually effect the lives of the common man...
 
In a society of 350 million people, the number of blacks killed by police is so small as to be a non-issue. The number of police killings of black people who are innocent is even smaller than that. Why are we spending so much time and effort on an issue that isn't even statistically significant? If we put our effort into saving lives, there are much more efficient things killing us to be attacked and changed. It's almost like the people deciding on the narrative are just trying to keep us from making any real changes that could actually effect the lives of the common man...
9/11 wasnt statistically significant either.
 
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