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Poilievre's becoming increasingly unpopular

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Pierre has a bi-election and leadership review coming up. This isn't good news for him.

Two new polls suggest the federal Liberals are comfortably ahead of the opposition Conservatives and Pierre Poilievre’s personal popularity has fallen since the April election.

Nanos Research’s latest numbers show the Liberals leading the Conservatives 45 to 31 per cent, and Prime Minister Mark Carney ahead of Poilievre in the preferred PM ranking at 53 to 23 per cent. In Nanos’ first post-election poll on May 2, Carney was leading Poilievre by only six points.

 
Poilievre just looks so lack luster and negative compared to Carney. Things are going pretty well in Ottawa without Poilivere and people are noticing. I'll be surprised if he retains the Conservative leadership. Like it was for the Liberals, it's really time for a fresh, new, energetic, intelligent face at the helm of the Conservative Party.
 
Poilievre just looks so lack luster and negative compared to Carney. Things are going pretty well in Ottawa without Poilivere and people are noticing. I'll be surprised if he retains the Conservative leadership. Like it was for the Liberals, it's really time for a fresh, new, energetic, intelligent face at the helm of the Conservative Party.

A charisma black hole who now holds the distinction of leading the Conservatives on to grasping defeat from the hands of certain victory.

I hope that he wins the leadership again. Watching Carney destroy him during Question Period will provide years of amusement.
 
This is the conundrum we face in Canada. A system of electing political leadership that is fraught with the feature of making life hell for anyone with excellent qualifications dumb enough to actually put themselves and their families into that pit of depravity. It's a system designed to eliminate anyone with the qualifications we'd desire and instead raise the most adept at the kissing of babies and taking a bite from an apple; figurative or otherwise.

We are stuck having to choose between a free rider like Poilievre whose only motivation is the lust for power and prestige and someone on the opposite side of the aisle similarly afflicted.

Every once in a while, so infrequently as to allow the country in the interim to fully descend into lethargy and infantile strife, comes a man with a stellar curriculum vitae whose interest in the job seems genuinely aimed at righting a listing ship. That happenstance relies to heavily upon "luck" over intelligent choice.

Voting for whomever based upon any populist agenda has to be the dumbest part of the whole political party process. We ultimately get what we deserve.
 
A charisma black hole who now holds the distinction of leading the Conservatives on to grasping defeat from the hands of certain victory.

I hope that he wins the leadership again. Watching Carney destroy him during Question Period will provide years of amusement.
The only caveat to that scenario is the bothersome and time wasting aspect of Carney's time and skill being better used at other requirements than wasting time putting up with a political free rider like the little troll.

I would vastly prefer conservatives pick someone of accomplishment outside the political day-care arena who has some common sense acumen of real life and can function well asking those tough questions that require the providing all of us the answers we can use to make intelligent decisions.

Listening to a whining pip-squeek, having done nothing in his life but free-ride through the ranks of a party, constantly bashing every decision taken without providing alternative options for consideration just makes a lot of us tune out altogether.

I admit to having my faith in the political process and the "collective" intelligence of the Canadian electorate being reinvigorated by Trump's abject stupidity resulting in a man like Carney stepping forward.

Would that we could rely upon a leader, once having been elected, seeking out the advice from the likes of a Carney and similarly skilled people to run the show, rather than relying upon a cadre of power hungry, like minded, self interested mini-me's.
 
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Every once in a while, so infrequently as to allow the country in the interim to fully descend into lethargy and infantile strife, comes a man with a stellar curriculum vitae whose interest in the job seems genuinely aimed at righting a listing ship. That happenstance relies to heavily upon "luck" over intelligent choice.
Would you place Carney in this category?

Any other PMs?
 
Would you place Carney in this category?

Any other PMs?
I do believe Carney could have had a continuance of a far less stressful, very rewarding lifestyle dependent upon nothing more than his past achievements.

Yes, I put him in the category of the Canada's welfare above personal aggrandizement to a similar degree as Tommy Douglas.

Many of our PM's could have chosen to remain simply successful businessmen rather than aspire to the ultimate power of leading a country but, the allure of having that "Prime Minister of Canada" addendum to their list of achievements is a powerful aphrodisiac. Paul Martin comes to mind.

On the conservative side, my impression of Joe Clark having the purest of motivation but alas, none of the pitbull skills required.

Going back further along the Conservative boardwalk, I'd have to categorize Diefenbaker as being motivated primarily by Canada's sovereignty protection over any self interest. The fact the man was also a petty megalomaniac notwithstanding.
 
I do believe Carney could have had a continuance of a far less stressful, very rewarding lifestyle dependent upon nothing more than his past achievements.

Yes, I put him in the category of the Canada's welfare above personal aggrandizement to a similar degree as Tommy Douglas.

Many of our PM's could have chosen to remain simply successful businessmen rather than aspire to the ultimate power of leading a country but, the allure of having that "Prime Minister of Canada" addendum to their list of achievements is a powerful aphrodisiac. Paul Martin comes to mind.

On the conservative side, my impression of Joe Clark having the purest of motivation but alas, none of the pitbull skills required.

Going back further along the Conservative boardwalk, I'd have to categorize Diefenbaker as being motivated primarily by Canada's sovereignty protection over any self interest. The fact the man was also a petty megalomaniac notwithstanding.
Pearson?
 
This is the conundrum we face in Canada. A system of electing political leadership that is fraught with the feature of making life hell for anyone with excellent qualifications dumb enough to actually put themselves and their families into that pit of depravity. It's a system designed to eliminate anyone with the qualifications we'd desire and instead raise the most adept at the kissing of babies and taking a bite from an apple; figurative or otherwise.

We are stuck having to choose between a free rider like Poilievre whose only motivation is the lust for power and prestige and someone on the opposite side of the aisle similarly afflicted.

Every once in a while, so infrequently as to allow the country in the interim to fully descend into lethargy and infantile strife, comes a man with a stellar curriculum vitae whose interest in the job seems genuinely aimed at righting a listing ship. That happenstance relies to heavily upon "luck" over intelligent choice.

Voting for whomever based upon any populist agenda has to be the dumbest part of the whole political party process. We ultimately get what we deserve.


I am sorry to say you are wrong.

I was a radio & television reporter covering national politics in Canada from 1969 through 1989.

Aside from the huge mistake that wast Justout Trudeau (and I warned you about him in 1979!), Canada has been very well led, although IMO in the wrong directions under Harper, who sold out to the party bosses when he made a majority. He lead an outstanding minority!!!

Jean Chretien bailed this country out of a financial disaster, using some crushing taxes and became more popular. even Today I bet he'd beat Poly. The Trudeau era as a lesson in the art of diplomacy with an edge, and showing our first steps of independence with our taxation system....which REALLY pissed off Nixon! I rate him the best closely followed by Mulroney! That era was the best we've ever had!

Poilievre was a 'one of' bit of glitter amid a dark and gloomy era of Canada's history. Looking like he'd been dressed by mommy, and an iron bar up his ass, he made sense to the Canadian people when nothing else did. You may recall that the leader of the separatist party in La Belle Province 'wasn't sure' his party would run on a separatist platform! Strange days indeed!

"Pee Pee" shot to the top of the popularity ladder propelled by a reverse vacuum of leadership. He was a "new face", smartly dressed with a battleship sized chip on his shoulder. Oh here is Robert Stanfield now?

Then came a somewhat shy, bookish, diplomat who had no clue about the fineness of public office, he hadn't learned the art of public ass kissing. As soon as he entered what as laughingly called a "leadership race" Poilievre's numbers crashed.

So, he took his advisor's advice and called an election.

I voted, did you? Only 28% of Canadians actually DO vote, the rest say they do but only complain.

In closing, Polly lost me over a silly incident at the Niagara Falls border crossing. A car went out of control and crashed into a guard rail.


Poly went nuts and claimed it was a terrorist attack!

Then he bit that stupid apple.

You'll be choosing a new leader. He's currently losing a by-election to an independent Trans woman.
 
I am sorry to say you are wrong.

I was a radio & television reporter covering national politics in Canada from 1969 through 1989.

Aside from the huge mistake that wast Justout Trudeau (and I warned you about him in 1979!), Canada has been very well led, although IMO in the wrong directions under Harper, who sold out to the party bosses when he made a majority. He lead an outstanding minority!!!

Jean Chretien bailed this country out of a financial disaster, using some crushing taxes and became more popular. even Today I bet he'd beat Poly. The Trudeau era as a lesson in the art of diplomacy with an edge, and showing our first steps of independence with our taxation system....which REALLY pissed off Nixon! I rate him the best closely followed by Mulroney! That era was the best we've ever had!

Poilievre was a 'one of' bit of glitter amid a dark and gloomy era of Canada's history. Looking like he'd been dressed by mommy, and an iron bar up his ass, he made sense to the Canadian people when nothing else did. You may recall that the leader of the separatist party in La Belle Province 'wasn't sure' his party would run on a separatist platform! Strange days indeed!

"Pee Pee" shot to the top of the popularity ladder propelled by a reverse vacuum of leadership. He was a "new face", smartly dressed with a battleship sized chip on his shoulder. Oh here is Robert Stanfield now?

Then came a somewhat shy, bookish, diplomat who had no clue about the fineness of public office, he hadn't learned the art of public ass kissing. As soon as he entered what as laughingly called a "leadership race" Poilievre's numbers crashed.

So, he took his advisor's advice and called an election.

I voted, did you? Only 28% of Canadians actually DO vote, the rest say they do but only complain.

In closing, Polly lost me over a silly incident at the Niagara Falls border crossing. A car went out of control and crashed into a guard rail.


Poly went nuts and claimed it was a terrorist attack!

Then he bit that stupid apple.

You'll be choosing a new leader. He's currently losing a by-election to an independent Trans woman.
I do not disagree with your choices per-se but some of those were long time party stalwart cabinet members seemingly bred for the job.

Yes I voted. I always have since first voting for Lester Pearson while in the RCN in 1965.

No, I will not be choosing the next Conservative leader as I'm a Liberal and very likely to remain so for the rest of my waning years.
 
I do believe Carney could have had a continuance of a far less stressful, very rewarding lifestyle dependent upon nothing more than his past achievements.

Yes, I put him in the category of the Canada's welfare above personal aggrandizement to a similar degree as Tommy Douglas.

Many of our PM's could have chosen to remain simply successful businessmen rather than aspire to the ultimate power of leading a country but, the allure of having that "Prime Minister of Canada" addendum to their list of achievements is a powerful aphrodisiac. Paul Martin comes to mind.

On the conservative side, my impression of Joe Clark having the purest of motivation but alas, none of the pitbull skills required.

Going back further along the Conservative boardwalk, I'd have to categorize Diefenbaker as being motivated primarily by Canada's sovereignty protection over any self interest. The fact the man was also a petty megalomaniac notwithstanding.


I interviewed Mr. Diefenbaker prior to the '76 Olympics. He as a poster boy of doddering, stuffed shirt, old fashioned, buttoned down old guys.

He absolutely HATED Pierre Trudeau. We were never sure Mr. Trudeau actually knew who he was. We were never sure Mr. Trudeau even took himself seriously. "Just watch me." came out of his mouth so easily that none of the reporters trailing his walk at first understood he was saying "**** it....I'll do what I like."

I believe he came to see me as a warm up act for his performances in the house. He was never cruel, but sharp tongued and quick witted to the point he could insult with scalpel-like precision. This was in the days of the "First Minister's Conferences" and he and the premiers were negotiating hat would become the constitution. It was a battle of Rhodes Scholars, with Trudeau on one side the likes of Alan Blakeny, Rick Hatfeild, & Peter Lougheed co on the other. Just add water and 'bang!' we suddenly have a real country.
 
Unemployed and homeless Ottawa man at the Calgary Stampede.

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Carney aside, Canadian politics have been awful since the fun Ford brother died.
 
So is watching the mayor of Toronto spazz out like an 80s glam band drummer in a 55 gallon drum of cocaine.

Just saying.
Pierre has a leadership review and by-election coming up. Stay tuned 😉
 
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