And the guy wasn't transgender and a woman could just as easily do the same thing. The real solution? Don't make open stalls where those people can be seen while inside actually changing.
No, the solution is, don't create a problem in the first place.
*CRICKETS*
Nobody has answered this still, what should PF have done after the lady complained and then they informed her of her equality policy?
Yes, they do. They reveal her for the reasonable woman she is.These qoutes of hers really does sum up this lady perfectly:
“This is about me and how I felt unsafe. I should feel safe in there.”
"I don’t care what you are; I don’t care if you’re gay, lesbian, transgender or transvestite. I am uncomfortable with you as a male in my locker room, in my restroom.”
At the very least, they should have apologized, and immediately refunded her money. But really, they shouldn't have such a stupid policy in the first place.
1.)i'll be blunt.
2.)Society we live in separates the sexes, not the "gender".
3.)transgenderism, is a disorder and a delusion. Others should not have to suffer to accommodate those suffering from a mental issue.
4.)Personally if an adult is happier modifying themselves to mimic the other gender, all the power to them. I also support the businesses rights to deal with that as they wish.
5.)But neither the "gym" or the lady, are in the wrong here imo.
6.) And if the "gym" had told the transdgendered that they COULDN'T use that locker room, they would be within thier rights.
1.)At the very least, they should have apologized
2.) and immediately refunded her money.
3.)But really, they shouldn't have such a stupid policy in the first place.
Yes, they do. They reveal her for the reasonable woman she is.
Do they still sell google glass? I have an idea!
1.) please do
2.) sometimes they do sometimes the dont. but since you brought this up can you tell us the difference and support that claim.
3.) your meaningless opinion that is not relevant to the topic. Does this mean handicap people should not be allowed in the restroom too? or anybody thats been diagnosed as bi-polar, manic depressive etc? oh wait, even though its just your OPINION that transgender is a delusion and mental disorder let me guess. Those other mental disorders are magically ok right? lol
4.) good thats what this person and PF did.
5.) the lady is in the wrong for her bigotry, not the initial complaint, not disagreeing but her bigotry.
6.) yes in this case that is true
see like i said, it will be a entertaining story and unlike the person in the OP, you will be breaking the law
1.) One has a pee pee, the other does not, simply cutting off or adding a pee pee doesn't change the sex you are. "gender" is a psychobable construct designed to confuse and obsfucate hard biology.
2.)One is male, thinks they are female, they aren't though, sorry, run what you brung, play the hand you are dealt and all that.
3.)I have no problem with PF, as I said, I was shocked they had "mens" locker rooms at all.
4.) It should be up to the business. Same with if they wanted to exclude the irish, mexicans, blacks or whites specifically. It should be up to the business.
5.)Bull****, she like others, simply doesn't accept the PC bull**** thats forced down our throats.... what bigotry? specifically.
6.)I think the societal acceptable answer is from a business standpoint, would be to add "gender neutral" locker rooms, etc/
Why? Why would I be "breaking the law"? specifically/. (ok forget the google glass).
Do they still sell google glass? I have an idea!
1.) interesting, so **** everything else lets just go by your opinions
2.) more meaningless opinions that the medical and science field arent on board with
3.) thats good and i never said you did
4.) well luckily thats not how this country works because people have rights
5.) you can call it bull**** all you want fact remains its bigotry. The assumption that the transgender makes it unsafe is bigotry. I always laugh at the forced down our throats line , its very telling. nothing is being forced down your throat.
6.) so add a 3rd locker room for who? what does this fix based of the lady;s concern, why is that locker room not a safety risk by the same standards some of stated here?
From Disorder to Dysphoria: Transgender Identity and the DSM-V | Articles | dot429
Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is
Paul McHugh: Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution - WSJ
I can give you thousands of these, but I would be wasting my time, I think.
See above.
Oh wait, so now YOU want to "discriminate" or allow businesses to "discriminate" if they want to the transgendered, but not the irish?
Whats the difference in YOUR mind?
This is something you made up in your head.
If it's biologically a male, it should go in the mens room, and vice versa, unless the business decides otherwise, holding such an opinion is not bigotry, you seemed to agree with me for a moment. What happened?
Dunno, Just telling you what I think society as a whole would accept. Remember I don't actually care.
From Disorder to Dysphoria: Transgender Identity and the DSM-V | Articles | dot429
Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is
Paul McHugh: Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution - WSJ
1.)I can give you thousands of these, but I would be wasting my time, I think.
2.)See above.
3.)Oh wait, so now YOU want to "discriminate" or allow businesses to "discriminate" if they want to the transgendered, but not the irish?
4.)Whats the difference in YOUR mind?
5.)This is something you made up in your head.
6.)If it's biologically a male, it should go in the mens room, and vice versa
7.) unless the business decides otherwise
8.) holding such an opinion is not bigotry
9.) you seemed to agree with me for a moment. What happened?
10.)Dunno, Just telling you what I think society as a whole would accept. Remember I don't actually care.
1.) yes you would be because i could give you NEWER ones and a 1001 that disagree along with ors like apa etc :shrug:
I wonder how many articles we could find saying alzheimer's, sexual orientation, bi-polar etc were thought to wrongly be something else? lol
I could find stuff that says you never operate on the heart too.
2.) yes see above
3.) wow you like to make a lot of stuff up huh LMAO
can you quote where i said "i" want to allow anything. I have not made comment about such an issue to you.
4.) now this i can answer, there is no different in my mind based on facts, Neither should be discriminated against.
5.) yes i agree the safety issue was made up in peoples heads and its silly and bigoted.
6.) opinion
7.) currently it is up to them in many areas
8.) never called that opinion bigoted, not once
9.) i still agree, "feeling" transgender should be somewhere else is not bigoted, thinking they impact safety is bigoted
10.) gotcha so you dont really have a solution then just throwing spaghetti, maybe some of the people with the bigoted views and totally up in arms about this can answer
1.)again, not PC, if your a d00d who thinks your a girl, to the point you want to do sex surgery, you are suffering from a delusion.
2.)and "Sex reassignment surgery" is false advertising, doods that become girls and vice versa have superficial plumbing changes. no ovaries. uterus, et al. no prostate for the others.
3.)It's really just for looks to satisfy a delusion..
4.) Forcing others to accept your delusion, really isn't the answer to me.
5.) AS far as your "scientists", err psychologists, as seen here, what they claim as "proof" is always theory.
1.) if you say so but many orgs and PhDs and common current practice disagree
2.) meaningless to the topic but yes you just cant give a guy ovaries. some women dont have them either or get them removed :shrug: gain meanignless to the topic
3.) see #1
4.) there is no force and nobody has to "accept" it
5.) they arent mine they just are
So you have seen a girl at the gym? As in a small girl? If you haven't seen a boy at the gym, then why would you assume that there are children at all in the women's locker rooms? There isn't likely to be girls at the gym if there are no boys at the gym. (Now, I've seen young boys and young girls at the gyms I've been to, but those have also been on base gyms.)
She is no more protected from those things by banning men than by allowing them in. No one has shown any evidence that men and women sharing public, monitored (attendant or people nearby) locker rooms protects women more than just allowing women in there. This is especially true when the main method of determining if someone is male or female is observation. There is not a pecker checker at the door. They don't do DNA testing to determine if someone has male or female chromosomes. They don't even ask for an ID that shows legal sex before anyone may enter the locker rooms.
No. She is being called a "bigot" because of her reaction to her own discomfort about the transgendered woman being in the locker room. It is her reaction, her assumptions that a transgendered woman, who may still physically be a man, is a higher threat to her or other women than another woman using that locker room is without any actual evidence of this. It would be the same as saying that allowing black women into the locker room makes her uncomfortable because she views them as a higher threat to her than white or Asian women. There is no evidence of this being true, but she still believes it. And if she reacted in a similar fashion to the gym "allowing" blacks in the locker room she uses, she would have no support and be called out for her bigotry right away.
The reaction to the discomfort is where she becomes bigoted, not the discomfort itself.
1.)So... uhm which public bathrooms should the transgendered use?
2.)If you are biologically the opposite, isn't demanding to use the wrong bathroom forcing your delusion on others?
Evacuate the changing room and call in a demolition team to blow it up.*CRICKETS*
Nobody has answered this still, what should PF have done after the lady complained and then they informed her of her equality policy?
So its okay for that "creepy male pedophile" to be in the men's changing room, with young boys? Because essentially, that is what you are saying. That man could still leer at children (boys) and make them feel uncomfortable. And anyone can make anyone else feel uncomfortable, even when they don't do anything at all.
We can hope that this will bring us finally to a much-needed turning point. As a society, we have made a great deal of “progress” (for wrong-wing values of that word) toward accepting and embracing all manner of sexual deviance, perversion, and immorality.
It's easy to accept any evil, if one doesn't expect to be affected directly by it.
But I think it will always be the case that most women are never going to be comfortable having strange men present where they are undressing; and as more and more women realize that accepting the sickness and madness of “transgenderism” means accepting that men (and not even normal men, at that, but men who are overtly sexual deviants of a disturbing sort) being allowed into their dressing areas; I think more and more women are going to become much less accepting of this particular sickness. And along with these women, so will turn the opinions of their husbands, fathers, brothers, sons, and other men who care about the well-being of the women in their lives.
Men pretending to be women, and being allowed into women's dressing areas, I hope and expect, will be the bridge too far for the pervert-rights movement; that will turn the tide of public opinion away from the madness and evil that it has been embracing, and back in the direction of common sense and common decency.
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