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1.) fact remains there is no perverted man stalking the women's locker room…·so again, The fact remains there was no perverted man stalking the women's locker room. If you disagree simply post a link showing there was. thanks
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Do you see the irony? It's a progressive policy that places the rights of one over another. Then when you don't go along with it/question it or disagree with it, they judge you for being judgmental, Then they will inflict any damage/ harm they are able. In this case the most they could do was revoke the woman's membership.
Meet The Individual At The Center Of The Planet Fitness Controversy - Chicks on the Right
Transgender woman in Planet Fitness locker room controversy says she used it twice to hang up coat, purse | MLive.com
Transgender woman at center of claims Planet Fitness controversy | Daily Mail Online
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I don't follow. PF doesn't care what sex you are.
It's the Emperor's New Clothes principle that I find myself referencing so often, lately. People are compelled to play along with what they know to be a lie, by the threat that they will be judged harshly if they dare to stand for the truth.
How about we just let people live their lives without judging them? Maybe we could try that. Maybe we could let the person who is without sin cast the first stone. Personal freedom - it means more than guns. If the woman had just shrugged and let everybody get on with their day, no problem for anyone.
Now she's a cause celebre for the right because it lets them feel like the victims.
How about we just let people live their lives without judging them? Maybe we could try that. Maybe we could let the person who is without sin cast the first stone. Personal freedom - it means more than guns.
If the woman had just shrugged and let everybody get on with their day, no problem for anyone.
Now she's a cause celebre for the right because it lets them feel like the victims.
I guess I fail to see how this relates to the previous posts or what I originally said. At PF it doesn't matter, at most other places there are consequences.The point is that by the time anybody knows what your junk is, you're already in the locker room.
No, you can't please everybody, but I don't think the answer is to make an entire locker room of women uncomfortable so that one person can be slightly less uncomfortable - but PF wants to try it out so I guess we'll get to see how it goes.Would you be comfortable with a bunch of trans people in the men's locker room? Some people are just uncomfortable about everything. There's probably gay guys in the men's locker room too. No doubt that makes some people uncomfortable.
You can't make everybody comfortable in these situations. Send 'em to the men's locker room and some uptight guy is going to get his panties in a wad over that.
No, you can't please everybody, but I don't think the answer is to make an entire locker room of women uncomfortable so that one person can be slightly less uncomfortable - but PF wants to try it out so I guess we'll get to see how it goes.
I guess I fail to see how this relates to the previous posts or what I originally said. At PF it doesn't matter, at most other places there are consequences.
No, you can't please everybody, but I don't think the answer is to make an entire locker room of women uncomfortable so that one person can be slightly less uncomfortable - but PF wants to try it out so I guess we'll get to see how it goes.
That all sounds very fine and good, but those of you on wrong who most piously preach that are the ones who are least willing to practice it, when faced with beliefs that you don't like.
So the women should have just kept her mouth shut, and undressed, in the room with the creepy guy right there? You condemn her for judging an obvious pervert, who had no business being in a women's locker room where she was expected to undress, but then go and judge her for her unwillingness to be subjected to abuse by that pervert. Standard wrong-wing “tolerance”.
From what is known one woman was uncomfortable, not "an entire locker room." While it is fairly probable that there was another who didn't say anything, there would be those who are comfortable, and likely that as many men would be uncomfortable.
and there were at least two other women that complained about the lady complaining because she was making them uncomfortable also
1.)It stated management told her she was "making people upset"
2.) while she said anyone she talked to was "appalled" by the policy.
3.)Were they uncomfortable with the policy, the man in the locker room, or the woman complaining? Can't say for sure; probably a mixture of all three.
1.) yes in one of the articles they said she was making other members uncomfortable
2.) yes she claims that
3.) some wre uncomfortable with the lady that is for sure by one of the articles.
could there have been people uncomfortable by the policy or the transgender? yes of course there could have
but that doesnt matter to the policy or the fact that claiming it was an entire locker room of women uncomfortable is made up and dishonest
Like I stated yesterday, it does matter, because the policy states that any behavior that is deemed disruptive to members is a violation. So if members felt that a man in the woman's locker room was disruptive, then it trumps the "self-identification" policy.
All available evidence points to the contrary. When the woman originally complained to the front desk, she was told that they'd "received lots of complaints" about the guy, but that he was transgender. As far as I can tell, there have been no women who have stated that they felt comfortable with the situation.From what is known one woman was uncomfortable, not "an entire locker room." While it is fairly probable that there was another who didn't say anything, there would be those who are comfortable, and likely that as many men would be uncomfortable.
hopefully I do this right, please let me know if i didn't
Static link: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint - ABC News
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[h=1]Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[/h]
Mar 7, 2015, 5:42 PM ET
A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man." The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today. "I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure." Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said. "And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said. "He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'" When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies. "I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man." She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled." On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately. "They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it." Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."
Wow so this lady made a complete ass of herself hahaha
I love that she made such an ass of herself and a stink of this that HER membership was cancelled. That's awesome. I'd like to know what danger she was talking about.
All available evidence points to the contrary. When the woman originally complained to the front desk, she was told that they'd "received lots of complaints" about the guy, but that he was transgender. As far as I can tell, there have been no women who have stated that they felt comfortable with the situation.
1.)I would have called the police
2.) and cancelled my membership.
3.) How am I to know this is a transgender and not a pervert pretending to be?
4.) Put in a family bathroom or something, but don't make me worry about my safety.
5.) Transgenders don't come with certificate.
Why is that the "best part"? Why do you take joy in the discomfort of others?you have evidence it was an entire locker room? lol please provide that now because there is none.
Best part is even if it was (though it FACTUALLY was not) it still doesnt matter PF makes the rules :shrug:
translation: your claim was false and you cant support it1.) Why is that the "best part"?
2.)Why do you take joy in the discomfort of others?
I would have called the police and cancelled my membership.
How am I to know this is a transgender and not a pervert pretending to be? Put in a family bathroom or something, but don't make me worry about my safety. Transgenders don't come with certificate.
and just like yesterday you are factually wrong proven by PF
even for entertainment purposes if your unsupportable, illogical assumption and opinion is true, its still PFs decision and not yours :shrug:
so like yesterday, it doesnt matter lol
We can agree to disagree then.
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